AMV Autobiography

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Post by inthesto » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:00 am

I counter with Maledict, BKB, and Death Ward.
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Post by Fall_Child42 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:41 am

Castor Troy wrote:
Yingface, PsyD wrote:Oh yeah, there's this important part of my AMV autobiography where I played DotA with Castor and some other people from here whose names I never bothered figuring out.

brb, finishing lothar's on stealth assassin.
Too bad I retired from dota.
Congrats! you retired from a shitty fucking game!

It's like "retiring" from Prison sweatshop work.
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Post by nevada11 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:19 pm

Wow, i like reading these. Especially the editors that originated from the '90s.

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Post by pharaoh » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:38 pm

this very inspirational guys keep it going

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Post by Lord Rae » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:41 am

My family never had a computer although I had enough experience with using them at school and friends houses but in 1998 I finally bought one for the house. It was around the time that I was trying to branch out into more anime as I’d mainly only seen movies up to that point. One of the first series I really got into was, you guessed it, DBZ. Being a huge fan at the time I was searching for backgrounds and ran across some guys fansite who also had something that seemed really novel, DBZ AMV’s… In fairness at the time it was rather novel for dbz amv creators at least.

He was a complete egomaniac however and claimed several times that he was the very first to do AMV’s. His name was DannypooX or something like that. The first amv I ever saw was his Dragula dbz video. Hearing that he captured his clips was my first clue that I could do this as well. Most of the other dbz amv folks at the time seemed to be using downloaded clips for their stuff and I didn’t want to go that way but when I found out about capture cards I was basically off and running. I really wanted to mainly focus on bands that either didn’t have cds out (as I was a member of several bands street teams at the time so I had access to lots of mp3’s and cds/tapes from unsigned and rising artists) and I think I succeeded for the most part. I used many bands back then that you know now as big and even overused bands. I like to think I had something to do with their increase in popularity. I had videos with demo versions of some songs that aren’t available anywhere now which is pretty cool too.

Early in 1999 I started my first video using a band who’s cd hadn’t come out yet but I loved the track. That led to me actually finishing the video (albeit using some downloaded clips) using Slipknots “Wait and Bleed” with DBZ. Yes not exactly the most stand out or original composition but really at the time amv’s hadn’t really exploded and it was still relatively hard to find a ton of creators on the web or at least I thought so at the time. Plus it predated the bands first cd even being released so I can at least claim some uniqueness there. It was a terrible video though but got me some exposure and a few fans. Standards were pretty low back then though. I think I did actually make that first video entirely with downloaded clips. It was terrible so I went out and with part of my student loan check bought a video capture card (WINTV for the win…hehe a $50 card that after about 10 videos worth of capturing actually physically broke inside my computer with parts falling off the card and everything). Other creators were definitely there though. Danny had a forum on his website that got me hooked up with many creators that I still talk to today. One of them was my future amv partner Eric (Xainpower, DarkXPower) and it was there that Danny kept up his insane claim to being the first to make amvs. I did a little research and immediately proved him wrong and in the process exposed myself to one of the first videos which really connected with me and showed me how crappy my early first couple videos were. I created my first amv studio around then (up until my 3rd or 4th video I was just using the name Lord Rae’s DBZ Videos) and named it Hakiteki Studios. The video that made me want to branch out was Hsien’s Flame of Recca video with the song “Youth Gone Wild”. It was awesome and a real game changer for someone who was downloading mostly rm and quicktime videos (and making them) up to that point. Hsien had videos in mpeg and although it took 12 hours or more to download a single video it was very worth it. During this time I made several crappy videos with different tracks by artists that were no one at the time but nowadays are known pretty widely. I made arguably the first Mindless Self Indulgence video to Bring the Pain (using the Videl vs Majin dude) and it was brutal and frankly a bad video but I got a lot of people interested in the band. Eric at roughly the same time was creating the epic masterpiece with MSI’s Bitches and Pokemon. I still remember seeing the first beta for that video and laughing hysterically. I think MSI can credit a bunch of their fame and success to that video. What was funny was going to lan parties with people who didn’t know I made videos and seeing people sharing Pokemon Bitches as a must have. Hehe.

Shortly after I made a video with Disturbed’s “Down with the sickness” before they had a record deal. I still like that demo version more than the one that made it on the cd. The demo version I got from being members of the bands street teams as they tried to get signed to a label and put out their first cd. So funny to hear them on the radio like a year later. I also did several others like Union Underground’s “Turn me on Mr Deadman” a song reused years later by Akimbo for his Batman Beyond video.

Around that time I created one of the first of my early videos that I actually still like to this day. It was still mostly a random action video and I certainly wouldn’t advise anyone to watch it but the idea is sound and I swear I’ll remake it some day in high quality and without the attempt to please the action video crowd. It used a (at the time) relatively unknown band although they did have a couple cds out. Incubus was I think 1 or two cds from breaking into the big time but I found one of their tracks called “The Warmth” which seemed to fit really really well with some of the elements of the Freeza saga in dbz. So I cranked the video out in a couple days and had my first fleeting taste of making drama amvs. I swear I’ll remake that some day. But again it was so weird hearing them on the radio and tv years later and wondering how many people got into the band cause my video peaked their interest.

My first non dbz video was to a series that was just being fansubbed at the time. Berserk. My video used the first 4 episodes of the series (all I that were released) and had subtitles but I really enjoyed having new stuff to work with although I would keep making dbz videos for a little while longer. My second was also to Berserk and was a sequel of sorts picking up where I left off the first video. I kept searching for other sites and places that exposed me to amvs (The Org didn’t exist at the time) like the AMV creators list email where the old vets hashed out questions and comments for videos and all things amv. That list also got me access to Waldo’s ftp, which has changed names several times and I no longer remember what it was originally called or what its called now. But through it I saw my first amv’s by Maboroshi, Brad Demoss, Kevin Caldwell, etc.

After seeing some of them in action and getting more comfortable with the software and such I made arguably my first watchable video, using Evangeleon and the band 8 Stops 7’s song “Uninspired”. Another video I need to remake. That video (As I was told years later) actually inspired other people to make amvs…which is pretty awesome especially since the person who told me that was Kwasek of More than Toast. They played it at their panel at AWA years ago and it was a very proud moment for me. It was a huge honor that someone that good was originally inspired by something I did. The video itself was a huge pain in the ass though because most of the VHS (they weren’t available on dvd at the time) EVA I had was subtitled. I had made videos that had subtitles in them before and didn’t want this video ruined by that. I had a few tapes that I received as gifts that were dubbed but for most of that video I was editing around subtitles and trying to use scenes that I didn’t really want to use but had to because only 4 or 5 tapes had come out so I only had the first 8-10 episodes of EVA. Also was it made me really yearn for the new tech of DVDs so I could avoid similar messes in the future. Anyway I kept on plugging away making amvs but around this time (I think) that I dissolved Hakeiteki studios and joined up with Eric’s newly formed Otaku Vengeance.

I was still teaching myself all things computer at the same time I was teaching myself editing and the software (Adobe 3 or 3.5 I think) plus basic html for my site. I had bought myself a copy of Adobe legit through my schools bookstore so I upgraded to Adobe 4 I think..honestly I don’t remember. Because of a fan of Eric’s Pokemon Bitches video we got the ultimate hookup for the time, free hosting space. So we were able to crank out our videos in mpeg finally and have them places other than the FTP. We used last I heard several TB’s of bandwidth a month and eventually our free hosting went away cause of the huge demand we placed on the servers. The first video I released under Otaku Vengeance was probably my most well known, my Kenshin (Samurai X as the dvds were called) OVA video set to VAST’s song Touched. That got a ton of feedback and really pushed me more towards drama amvs in general as I felt I was a lot more competent when I wasn’t do action sync. I made quite possibly (but I can’t be sure) Cowboy Bebop amv using every bit of footage that was available. I used the song “Valley of Chrome” by Cyprus Hill and the first 2-4 episodes of CB since that was all that had been released on VHS… That video was mostly a failure but I enjoyed it and it made me want to do a bigger bebop video that used the whole series.

After releasing several other videos following Touched I found that everyone was comparing everything I did with that video and didn’t like a lot of what I was making. To alleviate that pressure I actually started making videos under another alias and saying the guy was “a good friend”… heh. It seems silly now but I released two videos under the name Theosoph Z. One being a (somewhat) action video to Kenshin (Cause I already had the footage captured) and the other being that big bebop video in my old style of random action and lyric sync. The song was “What a Day” by Nonpoint. That was much later though after the whole series had been released on VHS.

At some point during all that the ORG was formed. It started as a conversation on that old AMV Mailing list and I initially discounted it thinking that even if it got up and running there was no way the site would last. I was incredibly wrong. I eventually got in on the site joining in early 2001. I also somewhere around there made my last (probably) DBZ video using a band I really liked. They didn’t have a cd or a record contract when I started the video. But by the time I finished I think a few other people had actually used them. I’m almost 100% positive that I was the first person to put a dbz clip on a timeline featuring a Linkin Park song. Yes… blame me I guess. ;p Granted at the time I started the video they weren’t even called Linkin Park. They were called Hybrid Theory and were just about to sign to a label. When they signed their label contract they had to change their name to Linkin Park and the rest as they say is history. ;p My final DBZ amv was to the song “With You” and was my Trunks Tribute using his relationships with the other characters to highlight aspects of his personality. Its hardly earth shattering or unique but I still enjoy watching it on occasion despite it being a Linkinball Z video. At least it was the first… or second by the time it came out.

I never dated my videos and really regret it as when I was adding things to the org I think I arbitrarily picked the premiere dates. I also have a god awful memory especially where time and dates apply so I apologize for any randomness. I think in late 2000 or early 2001 I released my Various Evil video (using Come To Daddy by Aphex twin) which is really the only various video I’ve ever done. It also featured a lot more overlays and effects than I usually used. It was actually cited by Wonka and Beo as one of the first videos they saw and what got them partially into making AMV’s which again is another huge feather in my cap. Imagine little ole me making crappy videos but somehow I’m the cornerstone of an AMV empire. Hehe always fun to think about and I love getting those emails over the years from other creators who have started or have been inspired at least in part to make videos because of something I did.

In late 2001 (or early 2002.. I don’t remember but the Fantomas Cd came out mid 2001) I went to AWA for the second time, actually met Hsien, Matt Wagner and other creators and was really stoked and inspired by the experience of the whole con and their focus on AMV’s. Shortly thereafter I made my first and only Horror video using Key The metal Idol and the song (cover) of Rosemary’s Baby by Fantomas. It was received pretty well but I haven’t really ventured back into horror since. I hope too some day if an idea strikes me again.

I really didn’t release much in 2002, just my Seether “Fine Again” video set to 3x3 Eyes (since banned from the org cause of the management for the band being tools) and my Generator Gawl video using Darwin’s Waiting Room. I really like both of those videos still but they never gained too much of an audience. I did continue to refine and fix my style of editing. The Generator Gawl video was especially tricky cause it’s a song about suicide and one of the characters does in fact kill herself in the anime. The problem? She does it off screen and her not is never really shown… argh. So I had some trouble conveying exactly what I wanted.

I lost a year of creating when Wonka and Beo got me hooked on the MMO Shadowbane. Which I still play just not as much as I did that year. But in 2004 I was back in business editing a couple really enjoyable videos. The first being my Kenshin (2nd OVA) video with VNV Nation’s spoken word track Distant (Rubicon II). I really really really enjoyed making that video and its one of my favorites to this day. The song fit so perfectly and I had a really great flow and feeling for the song when editing it. The other video was my AWA pro entry for that year (possibly the first year I entered PRO) which used the Legend of Black Heaven (a horrible show to edit with if your trying to sync music playing to them playing the music since so much of it not shown or shown in still images) and the Violent Femmes song “American Music”. I thought it fit pretty well. That was the second video my sister actually helped me with as she has a better sense of timing and what’s on and off beat. The first video she helped on was my Seether video 2 years prior.

In 2005 I did my first remake of an older video… and my only remake so far. I remade one of my first non-dbz videos that used the X movie and the song “Where” by Ultraspank. I love the remake. Its top 3 of my own videos imho and one I tend to show anytime I show someone my amv’s. I made 2 other videos in 05 both using Texhnolyze as the source. One was exactly what I wanted to make (“Imagine”) and the other was something I did for fun with less of a focus on technique and more focus on flow and feeling (Remember). The last video I made in 05 was my first video that ever received a nomination at AWA… it was nominated for best Drama I believe. The video was titled “Perfidy” and used another spoken word VNV Nation track which fit Berserk so well I HAD to make it. That video screamed to be made for a year or two before I finally did it. I didn’t win anything with it but I love that video. Its also top 3 imho.

In 2006 I was busy working after I finished college and didn’t really get anything finished but I did start my next Pro entry which eventually got entered into AWA Pro 2007 when I completed it right before the deadline. My video Fratello and it was nominated for a couple catagories but actually won best Drama that year awa. Which thrilled me as I don’t enter many contests, but I always try and have something for AWA. But the flip side of that is the competition at AWA is always pretty stiff so I was stoked to actually win especially with so many competing drama titles. Interesting (or not) to note… I haven’t actually released that video. Umm… blame laziness or computer problems or whatever but I haven’t. Hopefully I’ll get it up and going soon.

In 08 I only worked on one video essentially running out of time and at the last minute pieced something together for AWA this year. I didn’t receive any nominations on it though cause it was actually pretty bad. I realized that and have been revamping it and trying to get it encoded correctly and up on the site in its new version. Hopefully sometime soon I can get both videos encoded and out the door and on the internet. Then I can delete the footage and actually have room to do the multitude of ideas floating around my head.

And that’s basically it. The actual dates may and probably do vary greatly but that’s the gist of it.
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Post by outlawed » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:49 am

I'm a big anime fan so i decided to make some AMVs and it was fun.

Making AMVs was still cool back then.

Eventually this site was made. That was pretty much when AMVs stopped being cool.

For some unknown reason I participated in something called Iron Chef which is now called Iron Editor.

I was committed to an insane asylum and got involved with AMV contests.

I will probably retire soon because too many people are more concerned with AMVs than enjoying some disposable entertainment they downloaded in 30 seconds that I used to have to import on LD and pay out the ass for.

What was this thread about again?

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Post by Castor Troy » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:42 pm

Lord Rae wrote:He was a complete egomaniac however and claimed several times that he was the very first to do AMV’s. His name was DannypooX or something like that.
I don't remember DannyPoo being that egotistical.

Then again, I came to the scene in 1999 and have only talked to him on irc 3-4 times. He must have certainly calmed down by then. :P
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Post by Lord Rae » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:37 pm

Well eventually he did come around and admit that he didn't create amv's single handedly. But it took a bit of convincing and he always refused to watch anyone else's music videos as he didn't want anything else anyone was doing to "influence" his vision.

He wasn't a jerk but he was a bit of a tool about it. But yeah he did calm down alot after time.

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Post by outlawed » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:03 pm

outlawed wrote:I'm a big anime fan so i decided to make some AMVs and it was fun.
BTW I do think this is a cool thread and I'm trying to find the time to actually read it. I will actually post seriously when I get the chance later. Good times :)

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Post by Knowname » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:57 am

LuluandAuron wrote:
Knowname wrote:boooring... well everybody knows I like talking too myself... err I mean about myself (sometimes too myself)...
Hehehe when your working on a project, do you tend to do this? The reason I ask is, I always have to watch myself at work. I work as an editor and even on my breaks, I'm still editing in my head....but it tends to come out my mouth LOL
watching me work is embarrassing for all involved :/ I tend to burst out laughing at random moments...

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