Where is our world going?

[Garylisk]

I uploaded Shadow, and my audio was immediately disabled.

That's why.

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

One of my AMVs got the audio removed.

I disputed it, said it was fair use, and pasted that into the text field.

My AMV was back up with audio in less than a day.

True story.

[Ikore]

I uploaded Shadow, and my audio was immediately disabled.

That's why.

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

One of my AMVs got the audio removed.

I disputed it, said it was fair use, and pasted that into the text field.

My AMV was back up with audio in less than a day.

True story.

I did that, and my account was "suspended" eternally.

True story.

[BasharOfTheAges]

I uploaded Shadow, and my audio was immediately disabled.

That's why.

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

Fair use is only an affirmative defense. You need to bring it into a court room and pay the legal costs to see if your gambit will pay off. Just because you got your way doesn't mean you're off any hook. You're account info, IPs used, etc. is most likely in a bin somewhere as evidence so youtube doesn't have to deal with a threat to their safe harbor protection.

[Kionon]

I have successfully fought on a few videos, others I lost, because the copyrightholder followed up.

Popularity went through audio enabled, disabled, enabled, disabled. I had filed fair use under parody, but the label came back and convinced the tube to disable to audio again and ignore my arguments.

Which is a damn shame, because Popularity is a CLEAR parody of both sources and should be covered, but as stated, it's an affirmative response, and is up to me to prove that. No real reason to do so with the org around.

[Enigma]

I uploaded Shadow, and my audio was immediately disabled.

That's why.

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

One of my AMVs got the audio removed.

I disputed it, said it was fair use, and pasted that into the text field.

My AMV was back up with audio in less than a day.

True story.

I did that, and my account was "suspended" eternally.

True story.

Owned

[Garylisk]

Owned

True, his account did get banned.

[verlocs]

There's always the important part (i.e. the whole fucking point) of google being a multi-billion dollar company that has the clout to make deals and fight court battles when the shit hits the fan with regards to organizations like the RIAA getting uppity. We have no such protection, influence, clout, or money. The anime companies don't care about us all that much.

Google doesn't fight. They take shelter under 17 U.S.C. § 512 (Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act). That's not the same thing. They ENABLE DMCA takedown abuse on the part of the copyright holders.

I've posted my first film on the Org in years today after years on youtube because Aniplex has been on a crusade all week and I'm tired of sending counter notifications.

How can we change this (if we want to)? Do we need to promote the Org more at cons? Is our version of streaming enough?

Your version of streaming is a huge improvement from years ago.

Maybe the Org could grow into a rights advocacy group. The EFF is aware of amvs and mashups but they really don't care about them that much because not many of their members are amv editors. Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.

[Knowname]

Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.

lol that might be a good idea ^_^

[Kionon]

Your version of streaming is a huge improvement from years ago.

Improvement of what? Streaming? Or the Org? Preview is useful, but in general, I think it's abused. It should maybe only include the first thirty seconds of a video or something. It's not a preview when you can watch the whole thing,

Maybe the Org could grow into a rights advocacy group. The EFF is aware of amvs and mashups but they really don't care about them that much because not many of their members are amv editors. Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.

Those of us who are from the early days are quite paranoid about this. I for one would rather just make as small a splash as possible. We're too afraid the Org will be shut down.

[verlocs]

Improvement of what? Streaming?

Yes.

Preview is useful, but in general, I think it's abused. It should maybe only include the first thirty seconds of a video or something. It's not a preview when you can watch the whole thing.

It's not abused it's an expectation. Look, this isn't 1999, AJAX and web 2.0 is the way people expect things to be. If you're gonna show video you show it in a browser, you don't expect people to download it.

Maybe the Org could grow into a rights advocacy group. The EFF is aware of amvs and mashups but they really don't care about them that much because not many of their members are amv editors. Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.

Those of us who are from the early days are quite paranoid about this. I for one would rather just make as small a splash as possible. We're too afraid the Org will be shut down.

Then get proactive about dealing with it. If you let your opponents paint the picture first you're inevitably going to be cast as the bad guy, so... go to them first. If that means adopting a youtube style advertising-attached-to-identified-content style model where you cut in the license holders in exchange for tolerance, then at least you've secured your continued existence.