AMVs that make you want to give up

[outlawed]

I think it would be a lot better if the original question is changed to "What AMVs make you as an editor feel like a bitch"

This sums up what I'm talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3EJ08Z-9jA#t=24s

[JudgeHolden]

I never really felt that I wanted to give up after any particular video release, but these videos have definately made me feel out of my league so to speak when they first appeared.

take your pick...









These are pretty much all technical videos. Really good non-tech videos have also left strong impressions on me but usually they fall into the realm of "I can do that".

"Magic Pad" has the ability to both make me despair and inspire me to edit better. It's one of the few videos that's technically amazing and yet still has an emotional connection with the music.

The first time I saw the smoke effect in "Property of a Lady", I just wanted to curl up into a ball and cry.

That's just an ink drop from Riot Gear (of course, used very well). Funimation also uses it in their animated logo as well (which is an example of a real life company using Riot Gear).

[CorpseGoddess]

I never really felt that I wanted to give up after any particular video release, but these videos have definately made me feel out of my league so to speak when they first appeared.

take your pick...









These are pretty much all technical videos. Really good non-tech videos have also left strong impressions on me but usually they fall into the realm of "I can do that".

"Magic Pad" has the ability to both make me despair and inspire me to edit better. It's one of the few videos that's technically amazing and yet still has an emotional connection with the music.

The first time I saw the smoke effect in "Property of a Lady", I just wanted to curl up into a ball and cry.

That's just an ink drop from Riot Gear (of course, used very well). Funimation also uses it in their animated logo as well (which is an example of a real life company using Riot Gear).

It's so far beyond what I'm currently capable of doing, though, and where my editing head space is at that it seems like magic to me. Or "smoke and mirrors", if you will.

[ngsilver]

Maybe it's just the fact that I consider myself a fan first before an editor, but I haven't really ever seen a vid that has ever discouraged me from editing. There have been a few that ran off of the same idea I was also working on that after seeing it I stopped my project, but every time I had been 'working' on the project for multiple years and it's basically just sat on the back burner anyway so I already had practically stopped working on those projects.

Usually for me, when I see a video like many that have been posted in this thread already I just get more excited to continue doing what I already do. Many of these effects heavy videos and the like that have been referenced don't really discourage me from editing because I'll never get up to that level, they challenge me to get up there. With enough time and effort I'm sure I can. However heavy effects and the like isn't really my style and the majority of ideas that I get and work on don't really require effects work. What effects work I do is done with much the mentality of movie special effects, 'A good effect is one you don't actually notice as an effect, but feel is simply actually happening.'

[Nya-chan Production]

Like anyone wants to watch "simple" AMVs anymore, anyway.

I do and lots of other people do.

Also "I can always do better if I put my mind to it"

[Bauzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxEXbsgWYss

I'm watching this and I'm mildly impressed by the complexity of it all, and it's even using a source that I really enjoy, and yet... I don't feel a single thing but complete and utter indifference from start to finish. It's technically impressive and even "works" with the source material pretty well. But it just bores me in a way that even a truly bad AMV has yet to do.

I don't edit like this myself, and -- even as I learn basic effects little by little -- don't know if I'll ever be at the level where I could actually make something like this. And even if I did... well, watching this, I have to ask myself: would it even be worth my time to do so? When someone (who obviously has some level of talent) makes something as impressive-looking as this, something so completely out of my league, and it just doesn't move me at all... then what hope do I have of making a video that would move anyone else? I guess that's the issue that I'm trying to get at.

Obviously, here's where someone comes in and tells me to man up and to "make a better AMV then" or something. I don't know. It's not like I'm not trying. Like anyone wants to watch "simple" AMVs anymore, anyway.

I'll probably regret starting this thread by the end of the night. Oh well.

I will tell you straight up: This video is surely not out of your league. This video is... Well this is not what I think about when I listen to Skrillex. This doesn't really come close to the complexity of the song. and the effects? Ah... It's okay if you like it, but it's really not impressive. At least for me.

You can do the same thing too! It's all a matter of time you want to put in. You will need time to learn about analyzing the song and precisly paste and cut your clips. That's not hard to do. You need to know more about flow in videos. This is something that you will experience over time and the effects of this video? Learn colour correction with RGB curves and you're done.

I can totally understand you! Sometimes I feel the same, but they more often motivate me. You can learn so many great things from amvs. You can learn about effects, storytelling, editing, designs, software and so on. It's really up to you if you want to learn it.

If you feel overwhelmed it might be better to make exact plans of your amv. You want awesome designs? First draw them on paper, than take all the stuff you see apart. Than think about how you can create every little bit of it. Make small steps.

Experienced people do all this small steps too! Some do the steps faster and can skip some steps because they might know something like a handy expression in After Effects, but there are so many ways to get to your goal! In the end even the slowest way will bring you to your goal.

Don't put yourself under pressure. This should be a fun hobby! Take your time. Go step by step and you'll make it and take your time for it. After some time you will be faster and faster.

One more things about fx: Learn the basic effects and possibilities of your software. Than you will notice all the doors and possibilities that open for you.

[JaddziaDax]

I think that if you want to put that kind of time in then you should. If not that's okay too... my most recent "popular video" took me only a few hours to complete

[EvaFan]

If I watch a vid and then only memorable thing about it is the fx then to me it has failed as an amv and should be used in a demo reel where its redeeming quality/focus point matters. This is a-m-v.org not fxmv.org.

[seasons]

I probably should have been more clear. I've nothing against effects videos, and I've rated quite a few pretty highly. I guess it's just discouraging to see one that's such an all-out assault on one's senses (or at least attempts to be) that just falls flat and doesn't excite or inspire. I don't mean to pick on this video because, like I said, I sort of respect the effort that went into it (high by my standards, not so much by a lot of veterans here who are able to "read" exactly what the editor is doing). But it just bums me out that a video made in the spirit that this clearly was (with a video source that I like and an audio source that's... well, promising in the hands of a good editor) just doesn't do anything for me at all.

It's like ordering a pizza when you're really hungry, only to have it arrive and be tremendously greasy and over/undercooked, the sort of pizza that's so disappointing that it just puts you off of pizza for a few weeks. I don't know. I see a lot of effects here that I'd like to try to learn, but they're employed in such an over the top way that afterwards I'm left feeling like I don't want to see any of them again for a long time, much less actually use them myself.

[BasharOfTheAges]

In that light, bad effects videos shouldn't make you feel like you can't measure up; they should make you feel smugly superior that you know they're bad. Maybe a little sorry for the person that made them.