Whats More Important: Talent or Hard Work?

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:57 am

Hard work is a talent.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:30 am

Lyrs wrote:Hard work is a talent.

Rock Lee is a genius at hard work.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:41 am

The answer, I think, is both.

Hard work can produce a lot. Talent can also produce some good stuff, but by itself talent is worth little. Talent has to be developed, and that takes hard work.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:22 am

Scintilla wrote:I'm guessing that a good part of what some would call "talent" can be attributed to watching others' videos and really paying attention to what works and what doesn't. Which, I suppose, also takes effort.

Great point here Scintilla. Indeed it's what I think, Talent is surely important and so the answer to your question, Beowulf, is clearly Both.
As Scintilla said, "Talent" is something that you achieve with effort and time, watching other videos and, of course, having at least a minimum critical view of them. Another really important thing about what we could call talent, is that a good creator (not a starter, in that case I quote Requiett), should learn how the human eye receive inputs and emotions (Men I'm not kidding), before you create an effect, for example, think about what you would think seeing it, and think about which "emotion" a person would receive, that's greatly decisive during editing.
I'm sadly not been really clear, but this is because when expalining things like this my english really suck, sorry guys.

Oh, and also.

Kalium wrote:The answer, I think, is both.

Hard work can produce a lot. Talent can also produce some good stuff, but by itself talent is worth little. Talent has to be developed, and that takes hard work.

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:39 am

Real talent can never be replaced by hard work. A person who is really talented for something can do things out of the shell at a level that the most "normal" people probably never will reach, no matter how hard they try. Of course, even a talented person can improve much if s/he works hard and reach that way a really exceptionell level.

CHAMELEON_D_H · Post by **CHAMELEON_D_H** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:14 am

0.o I've got a naruto dejavu... :p

Even though "knack" is a "talent from birth", people with knack do develop it over the years. We say that a person has the knack and he can fix every computer problem, but it's only natural when that person uses computer since he\she was little. The same goues for creativity. Many times children to artistc parents become artists themselves for the same reason. Talent is somthing earend. It may not be hard work to earn it, but it does take time. Watching many AMVs, knowing how does a GREAT AMV should looks like, from concept to timing and effects, is the "AMV knack".

Great achivments are "hard work" times "hard work", and Thomas Alva Edison agrees with me on this one.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:57 am

Reading the responses to the OP, I get the feeling I'm watching Whisper of the Heart again.

I'd have to say both are about equally important. Everyone has a bit of talent, even if it is coming up with a perfect anime/song combo or concept. Whether that concept becomes a good or even great AMV is due to how much work is put into it. There are some AMVs that have a spark of greatness that is ultimately only mediocre because the person didn't spend enough time and hard work on polishing it. Then there are those editors that have the technical aspects down pat that seem to create an AMV that, while it ovbiously shows the amount of work put into it, is somehow missing that "thing" that puts it above the good AMVs into greatness.

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:27 am

CHAMELEON_D_H wrote:Great achivments are "hard work" times "hard work", and Thomas Alva Edison agrees with me on this one.

If you refer to his statement "Inventions are 99% transpiration and 1% inspiration", you are wrong. At first, it was a statement about his personal way to make all the inventions, which can't be generalized. And second, the part "1% inspiration" says you need some talent. With hard work only you cannot compensate missing talent completly, you can never break the barrier from good (if you can arise above average at all) to exceptionell. People like Albert Einstein, Luciano Pavarotti, Muhammed Ali aren't/weren't so much better than other scientists, tenors or boxers because they work/ed so much harder (Einstein was a lazy pupil/student). They have that neccessary amount of talent.

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:07 pm

I think normally it grows...

Through hard work, talent emerges...

Everyone's potential usually can't be seen on first results...

My first 4 vids are bad enough that I decided against posting them on our blessed servers and let my 5th vid and onward show what I have...

[those few of you lucky enough to keep my first four pieces of trash, I salute you! ^_^]

Reigna · Post by **Reigna** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:13 pm

Even though I haven't been doing this for too long, it seems like hard work and a willingness to learn from your mistakes are talents needed to develop as an editor. Also, like silver_moon mentioned, experience is key. It is hard work to be committed to such a time consuming hobby, but by continuing to learn throughout each video, you can really reap the rewards of the experience.