youtube not for AMVs

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:35 am

If a member (most likely a newbie) posts to the wrong forum, you as a knowing member must 1) answer the question they posted and then 2) point out which forum is the most approprate one to post to about such items. The forum moderator will (most likely) soon move the thread.

you know i kinda take tube links in the same manner:

If a member (most likely a newbie) posts the wrong content (IE a tube link), you as a knowing member must 1) tell them why the link isnt allowed and then 2) point them to how they can fix it. The forum moderator will absolutely nothing....

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:35 am

Scintilla wrote:From your spelling, I'm going to guess that English isn't your first language. We have many members here who speak Dutch and/or German; you might find it helpful to run a post like this by them next time, or get them to translate for you.

Yeah NP if the kid is actually Dutch I have no problem with helping translating for him.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:36 am

The forum moderator will do absolutely nothing....

fix'd

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:59 am

JaddziaDax wrote:
If a member (most likely a newbie) posts to the wrong forum, you as a knowing member must 1) answer the question they posted and then 2) point out which forum is the most approprate one to post to about such items. The forum moderator will (most likely) soon move the thread.
you know i kinda take tube links in the same manner:

If a member (most likely a newbie) posts the wrong content (IE a tube link), you as a knowing member must 1) tell them why the link isnt allowed and then 2) point them to how they can fix it. The forum moderator will absolutely do nothing....

I think that would be a good way. Then,may i suggest such a thing?

If someone posts a Tube link,then I think answer should be like this :

The link you have provided,isn't very welcome here. Since you know of existence of this site,I think you should know a bit more about it - purpose of this site is to make AMV community members have easier way to associate,that's why we have Local files here. Here's a very helpful guide how to upload your video to local bandwith. Of course,if you have your own site,and have your file uploaded there,you may ask other members about how to add a Direct/Indirect link to your video. But , the site at which your video is , not very liked here,since here you will have much more options. The purpose of this site IS made for AMV creators.

Well something like that..

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:01 pm

hey, i like youtube and i like the idea of being able to provide streaming links to AMVs.

however, uploading AMVs to youtube violates their terms of service and i don't want to make it seem like this site endorses violating youtube's tos.

also if you're putting in the youtube video description "hey check this video out at animemusicvideos.org," it brings attention to us at a site that already has the attention from mpaa, riaa, licensing and broadcasting companies.

godix · Post by **godix** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:19 pm

Scintilla wrote:I'm guessing that most of those people:

- Aren't used to fora where postings like that are considered lock-worthy
- Being as they just joined the Org, don't know about the site's stated aim and/or the ability to host videos here

- The tube itself has moderation. While it's done by users instead of mods the idea of moderation shouldn't come as a surprise

- The forums are not the default page for the org. Which means anyone who has joined the forums has had to go digging around the site at least a little, has had to create an account (which IIRC requires agreeing to a largish paragraph of rules and shit), and then had to at least glance over the various forums including the one with "Please go here to read the FORUM RULES." in bold. These people may be ignorant of what the org is for or the basics of how it works but they SHOULDN'T be considering they've had to already poke around the site some just to do their post.

JaddziaDax wrote:I mean atleast give them a chance before you start driving them away.

Personally I figure if they posted in the Announcement forum I'll leave them be. They obviously spent the effort to see where their stuff is appropriate and considering the anti-tube isn't blatantly stated anywhere that's easily accessible I can understand not knowing it. If they post in General AMV then fuck em. They already spent the time getting that far there's no reason they shouldn't have seen the topic that's right under General AMV. That was their chance right there.

JaddziaDax wrote: if youre that lazy you can even leave the links to lame asses like me that are willing to link them to the right guides...

It's jaddziadax@hotmail.com right? I'll keep that in mind.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:38 pm

If you are trying to find good videos, I don't think youtube is for amvs. This site has waaaay better categorized list, and videos filled with subs and divx logos do not get above a 4 star rating here, only over at the tube. I use to go there, but started to get really pissed that I'd search for the most popular video and highest rated videos, and I end up running in to a bunch of naruto videos with bad sync, divx logo and subtitles. It's wrong! It's WROOOONG!! (cartman)

Anjira · Post by **Anjira** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:47 pm

I'll admitt it; I'm an avid tube junkie, and that is made even more apparent by the back that I have weel over 400 favorited videos, mainly consisting of amvs.

Anyways, getting back to the point that I will now make.

I was pretty much exposed to the org from the tube and from my friend, who was also introduced in the same manner. Sure, there are tons of sucky amvs and the like on there, but I wouldn't of known about this place if I didn't seem some of the excellent amvs that I found there, (i.e Euphoria). Sure, I could have found the org in a different manner, but the sistuaion would have been altered, and I might have been like one of those noobs who posts the tube links instead of the org link. Through my understanding of the amv creation process as well as this site, I was able to learn technological aspects and the like, and how to host videos properly; things I never would have known about if I didn't know of this site. Thus, things turned out for the better, so to speak.

So, instead of arguing back and forth about the two, why not we view the tube as a kind of...learning device and a stepping stool for greater ideals that can be reached here on the org.

That's how my sistuation went, anyways.

^_^

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:14 pm

Anjira wrote:I was pretty much exposed to the org from the tube and from my friend, who was also introduced in the same manner. Sure, there are tons of sucky amvs and the like on there, but I wouldn't of known about this place if I didn't seem some of the excellent amvs that I found there, (i.e Euphoria). Sure, I could have found the org in a different manner, but the sistuaion would have been altered, and I might have been like one of those noobs who posts the tube links instead of the org link. Through my understanding of the amv creation process as well as this site, I was able to learn technological aspects and the like, and how to host videos properly; things I never would have known about if I didn't know of this site. Thus, things turned out for the better, so to speak.

My case wasn't exactly the same. When i saw "Right Here",at my friends place, I've spent few days on searching of something similar on net,that's when i bumped here first. Besides this site sure can teach a lot,and not only site,but people here are very nice,and almost always helps ya (whenever they can). But I wonder even now - If I would encouter that vid on Utoob (with it's horrible quality,and sound...) Would I be here now? I don't think so...

So... :

Anjira wrote:So, instead of arguing back and forth about the two, why not we view the tube as a kind of...learning device and a stepping stool for greater ideals that can be reached here on the org.

The thing is - I'm not drop dead against tube,but think - if ya allow this to continue,and won't teach Utoobers good mannes (or just call it right behavior here) , then they will just keep incoming,and little by little, ~5/10 new presented vids will be Utoob

and I don't really want to watch at someones downloaded fansubed,watermarked or maybe even worse quality footage. I already said this - Utoobe is bad! If ya allowing Utoob here,that means ya're givin' away this site little by little

And finally this will become another Utoob...
*prays that this would never happen*

And maybe even something like this can happen :

Imagine,we are allowing to keep Utoob, then these news spreads on Utoob,and they start to gather here. Yeah,it's good,I mean it's much more users,and they finally understand that this site is better!

Like that right?

WRONG!

What will ya do if half of them are like Utoobers that are here now? I mean,will you be able to control ~1000 Utoobers,who post about their fansubbed videos? I know you think like :

Of course we must teach them that this site supports Local files,and we must tell them that it's better here than Utoob.

Well stuff like that.

And wrong again!

How the hell will you teach the same ~1000 Utoobers to use this site correctly? Until you teached them,the new ones will come! And so on,and so on...

The problem is,something needs to be done with this problem.

Excuse me for being rude,or maybe i even insulted someone,but again,Excuse me. I just don't think that all that Utoob thing here is not right.

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:16 pm

Rapture** wrote:Excuse me for being rude,or maybe i even insulted someone,but again,Excuse me. I just don't think that all that Utoob thing here is right.

sorry for double post.