New Artist Looking for tips

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:30 am

Ghet wrote:
Casterday wrote:29.98 AND 29.97
now on a sidenote

why would you want to export at .01 frame per second more?

secondly, the NTSC standard for televisions is 29.97, i think a computer can pretty much play anything up to 60fps(The frame rate the computer screen runs at iirc)

I think it's supposed to be 23.98 (which is 23.976 rounded up) and 29.97. The first being the frame rate for NTSC film and the latter for NTSC video.

ZephyrStar · Post by **ZephyrStar** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:51 am

Yes, if you've ripped and prepared your footage using an avs script to inverse telecine, you should be looking at 23.976 frames per second. If you're editing that 23.976 fps progressive footage with a 29.97 timeline, your vid might end up being a little broken. (and, if you're using 23.976 fps, you'll want the 24fps timeline)

If you're using interlaced video straight from a DVD, 29.97 fps is what you want, and you can de-interlace it later if you have to.

(And yeah, to echo the effects argument, don't use it unless your video needs it. If you find some random effect and just decide to throw it in, it will make your vid disjointed. Far better if you like the effect, to find a video idea where the effect might work on the entire video and create a vid around it or to make use of it. Dunno what your editing looks like so far, but since people were bringing this up, thought I'd chime in.)

Casterday · Post by **Casterday** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:39 am

ZephyrStar wrote:Yes, if you've ripped and prepared your footage using an avs script to inverse telecine, you should be looking at 23.976 frames per second. If you're editing that 23.976 fps progressive footage with a 29.97 timeline, your vid might end up being a little broken. (and, if you're using 23.976 fps, you'll want the 24fps timeline)

If you're using interlaced video straight from a DVD, 29.97 fps is what you want, and you can de-interlace it later if you have to.

So I can write my entire amv with 29.97 interlaced then deinterlace it when I finish my editing and final scenes installed? Ok, sounds good. ^^ However I found a nifty DVD ripper which can Inverse Telecine for me :O Its NIFTY!!! 4movy DVD converter Can do what no other DVD converter can do -- INTERPOLATE and telecine!!!

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:59 am

Casterday wrote:
Ghet wrote:
Casterday wrote:29.98 AND 29.97
why would you want to export at .01 frame per second more?
Correction, Pinnacle Studios Plus says 29.97 and 24(?)... Guessing it means I cant do what people would appreciate in a video: smooth sophisticated quality. Pity.

Does not tell me what program to use Inverse Telecine or the 3:2 pulldown And Avid's Pinnacle Studio appears to do only 29.97 and 25 FPS... Considering my care value in quality (which is exactly thoughtless and proving bad for my own eyes) I shunned myself in thinking the quality of my vids will prove POOR. However... I haven't heard much about the sample being bad quality yet.

Hope people want HDTV quality soon, I can format at 1080pi ... :3

do yourself a favor and forget about all that stuff. Just create. AMVs are so short (unless they are an mep) that framerate is not gonna matter really o.0 unless your entering into a con or don't play it on a computer. Also Anime is rarely in HD still, so don't sweat it! In fact you still take advantage of the higher fidelity of HD just by assuming it's SD! So just follow the guides, make your video, be proud of it (your first GOOD video probly won't come until number 3 or so anyway. Like many have said there's alot of stuff you can only chalk up to experience.).

Don't think so much, just edit and keep a log of what you do.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:01 pm

eh, I'd stick with aivsynth.
you'll probably get a better result if you IVTC with avisynth instead of letting a ripping program do it for ya

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:57 pm

Casterday wrote:So I can write my entire amv with 29.97 interlaced then deinterlace it when I finish my editing and final scenes installed?

I wouldn't recommend doing that, as there is too much risk of messing it up (especially if you mix sources) and if that's the case, then you won't be able to deinterlace your finished work. It doesn'talways happen, but do you really want to chance it?

Deinterlace your footage before you start, so you can work in progressive. It's much safer.

S.

Casterday · Post by **Casterday** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:20 pm

OK thank you all for the helpful hints. Now my current projects are on hold, all-be-it I did have someone look over my current work, Mr.Pilkington. Dont ask me how I got him to look it over. Now he's a VERY HARSH critic. All I got from him was "keep working to the beat, Deinterlace, lip sync better, and just keep doing what you feel would work for the video." Now hes extremely critical, but I didn;t hear ' it sucks" from him at all. and 9/10 times he would say "horrible" when something got a rating of 8... well things are looking up...

problems still are this -- My DVD rippers are down, and my HD is running low on space (my external failed)

jenilo · Post by **jenilo** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:24 am

I think here whatever the suggestions are given to you might be helpful for me also. I would like to start new project on this. Thanks to all of you in advance.

ZephyrStar · Post by **ZephyrStar** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:54 am

Sounds like you guys are figuring it out. And, good to hear you can take the crits...that and doing it over and over again are the best ways you can get better in my opinion. Good luck!