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Post by Ghet » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:57 pm

NerdStrudel wrote:
Ghet wrote:
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putting a romance scene to a death metal song, etc
Yah, because we see that kinds shit all the time :roll:
that was an extreme example, you get what i mean.
Not really. Opposing kinds of sources can sometimes work in a way.
thats called irony. it CAN work.

but when you see something like an action video where the footage just cant keep up

or a romance video with a fight scene between the two main protagonists, thats what turns me away from a video and in the direction of the nearest wall to punch.

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Post by NS » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:07 pm

So... You hate creativity or something that steps away from what you expect to happen? Ok then.

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Post by gaveitaway » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:57 pm

No need for fighting.

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Post by NS » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:16 pm

gaveitaway wrote:No need for fighting.
You sir, DON'T EVEN KNOW!

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Post by sayde » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:56 pm

Run-on scenes are the only thing that'll make me close my media player before the amv is finished. I guess that's because amv's which are composed entire of lengthy clips by their very nature show no real effort, synchronization, or flow most of time.

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Post by badmartialarts » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:14 pm

I really like syncing things up in subtler ways than throwing effects or flashes everywhere. Like having someone raise their hand on beat, or shift movements on beat, using the action already in the shot to convey the motion of the song. I've always called this 'motion sync' or 'coincidental sync'.


As for other types of sync, I like them too. Lyric sync is actually a lot more difficult to pull off than most people realize. The problem with lyric sync is that the viewer is trying to focus on the video AND the song at once, so if you have a cool line like...hrm, "tell me why....I need another Pet Rock," and then you just flash a Pet Rock on the screen, or have a scene with a rock in it, it may not click in the viewers mind. But if you start panning a Pet Rock across the screen before it mentioned in the song, the viewer is gonna wonder "why is THAT there?" and then they will switch focus to the lyrics just in time to hear 'another Pet Rock' and hopefully enjoy the lyric sync. :) Also, from a video I'm working on now, there is a line that goes "and it's you, the star that guides me when I'm lost at night" and I have a scene of a girl coming down from the ceiling on a wire harness to make her look like she's flying. To me that's a pretty obvious lyric sync, but it might not be so obvious to someone else. Lyric sync is very viewer-intensive AND very viewer-dependent.

Effect sync is easy, but it has to be effective. Effective effects to me are effects that not only look interesting but don't heavily distract you from what is going on in the song and/or video. Euphoria's effects package is brilliant; it's enough to captivate, but if you take the time to look in all the circles and Kooptangles, you see a well done, well synced in other ways video as well. You can't just have bars and waves everywhere bouncing on beats and expect that to be enough.

Strobing beats is old school. I appreciate the classic techniques. :up:

Mood sync is awesome and again, very viewer-dependent. Going with mood sync is color sync which is something I've read a lot about but have only experimented with a few times. Certain sounds give certain colors. So do certain moods. Slightly blueshifting your video gives it a cooler, sadder feeling, redshifting makes it more aggressive and warmer. Again, somewhat viewer-dependent.

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Post by Sonydjsnmix » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:33 pm

Fire_Starter1982 wrote: Improper Use of Non-English Music:
If the song sounds good to you, you're only half-way there. Make the effort to know what the lyrics translate to, and match your video to THAT. A fast-paced track does not automatically guarantee you can use it in your "Naruto fights <OpponentNameHere>" video...especially if the song happens to be about something completely UNRELATED to fighting.
I hate it when editors do this to Japanese songs.... I speak Japanese! And I very well know most editors picked to use certain songs just because it sounds "pretty"... annoys the shit out of me.

I hate it when an amv falls flat on mood sync. If an amv have everything, but that it fails in my eyes.

I also hate when people takes songs too literally.

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Post by xexyzl » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:43 pm

badmartialarts wrote:Lyric sync is actually a lot more difficult to pull off than most people realize. The problem with lyric sync is that the viewer is trying to focus on the video AND the song at once, so if you have a cool line like...hrm, "tell me why....I need another Pet Rock," and then you just flash a Pet Rock on the screen, or have a scene with a rock in it, it may not click in the viewers mind. But if you start panning a Pet Rock across the screen before it mentioned in the song, the viewer is gonna wonder "why is THAT there?" and then they will switch focus to the lyrics just in time to hear 'another Pet Rock' and hopefully enjoy the lyric sync. :) Also, from a video I'm working on now, there is a line that goes "and it's you, the star that guides me when I'm lost at night" and I have a scene of a girl coming down from the ceiling on a wire harness to make her look like she's flying. To me that's a pretty obvious lyric sync, but it might not be so obvious to someone else. Lyric sync is very viewer-intensive AND very viewer-dependent.
I watched an AMV recently that had really good lyric sync, but I only spotted most instances of it on the third or fourth play through. Lemme see if I can find it....
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Whoaa I just realized how unknown it is. Anyways, first time through I instantly saw the syncing of the "covet what was mine" line, to the scene during the Great Eclipse
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when Griffith (or Femto I guess) rapes Caska in front of Guts

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Post by downwithpants » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:46 pm

eh, its not that a music video has to break a rule to lose my interest, but rather it has to do something to gain my interest. if it doesn't have something that grabs my attention, ima stop watching after 15 secs at best.
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Post by Phantasmagoriat » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:21 am

There has to be noticeable 'togetherness' between the Anime and Music. Otherwise I could just listen to the song, or watch the anime separate...
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