AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

[godix]

There is a difference between originality and willful ignorance. This isn't kindergarten, we don't give you a gold star for effort when the end result sucks.

Besides, we aren't saying you should edit a video exactly like Euphoria, WoTB, or any other amv. We're saying you should know the basics of video editing theory. Knowing what cutting on action or the 180 degree rule means doesn't turn you into a robot mindlessly following a set formula. At worst, it is info that doesn't really apply to AMVs. At best, it is info that helps make your AMVs enjoyable. Either way, it's just knowledge. It does not replace or diminish the concept of your video, which is where originality is at. After all, Shakespeare wrote iambic pentameter which is a highly formalize style that has strict and frankly rather arbitrary rules. Despite this, four centuries after his death he's still generally considered the best author ever and his works are the second most published in all of history. Obviously, following rules on presentation doesn't mean your work is automatically crap or a ripoff of someone else's style.

In other words, get your head out of your ass and quit pretending ignorance is anything except ignorant. Stupidity is not a virtue.

[Pas]

My whole life, I've never never followed the current trend. I've never been a follower, always a leader of sorts. I'm just used to doing things my own way, and I'm afraid that if I start doing things like everyone else, I'll just become another faceless person in the crowd. I wish to maintain my individuality as a person, an editor and as a husband.

So forgive me for not wanting to adhere top common editing techniques. I just don't feel that all that fancy editing isn't really necessary to make a video enjoyable or otherwise. It's all the passion you have for doing something and the amount of effort you put into your videos.

And it's not just video's. It's anything you do. So forgive me for not wanting to be a follower. Not to mention that I've read all the guys that have been put on the org. And frankly, I didn't really understand it all. I mean, I did....but I didn't. Telling me it's recommended to do stuff like this, and stuff like that, and and it would be best if you.......

Get it out of my face. Editing Philosophy, Music Philosophy? I prefer to listen and feel the music. Not feel what a book tells me I'm suppose to feel. I'm stubborn. I get it. But I feel a lot of what I say makes sense as well. Although to you all, your probably sitting there say what the fuck is this guy's problem. I don't blame you. I just prefer to break way from the mold.

And please. Tastes and human perception are always changing, so eventually, those books are going to go out of date. Maybe not now, maybe not in my life-time, but eventually they will. What will you do then? It's proven that people don't like change. Which is why I believe everybody edits almost the same way or at least in ways the guides tell them too. I'm just not a big fan of conformity.

You're awfully condescending for someone who started the thread hoping for some discussion. All you have shown me so far is a complete disdain to listen to the advice of people trying to help you. Feel free to ignore their advice, but then don't expect everyone to bow over at your "superior" editing techniques.

I won't bother repeating what godix has already stated, but I must say this; Following the rules and guides laid out by many thousands of people before your time does not make you a "follower", just as ignoring those rules doesn't make you a "leader".

Also...

Because nowadays you have to edit something just pure epic and awesome just to get any kind of praise on your video.

Somewhere along the lines I think you forgot this is really just a hobby. People don't have to like it, as long as you enjoy what you do, why let any one else stop you? If what you fear is rejection or criticism, then this is certainly not the right place for you. If anything you'd be better off showing your video to friends and family, perhaps they'll learn to sugar coat it.

What you are essentially trying to tell us is that by ignoring everything that you should really be learning, you are somehow being anti-conformist and unique. The fact of the matter is, too many people are doing this. It's in no way being original, indeed most people don't bother learning the basics, and that's where they fail. Great artists spent years studying human anatomy and composition, just as musicians study sheet music and songwriting endlessly. Video editors are no exception to this. Learn about frame composition, mis en scene, shot types and colour theory. Make them second nature, and when you do you will realize how important they are, and how you ever lived without them.

Even if you find that you do not agree with the rules, it is better to knowingly break them than just be ignorant of their existence. Nobody is telling you to conform, but it would be highly beneficial to yourself if you at least studied the techniques and methods before decreeing them to be useless bits of information.

If you truly insist on believing that fighting against the rules makes you special, try using some Comic Sans for your typography next time. I hear the kids love that shit.

[Zarxrax]

My 'style' mostly consists of dropping a clip down on the timeline and seeing if it "looks right" to me. If not maybe I'll try adjusting the cut by a few frames. If its still bad maybe I'll consider adding a fade or something. If it's still bad maybe I'll consider a different clip altogether. But that's basically all that it boils down to when I edit. I don't really follow any sort of theory.

[Koopiskeva]

Who are you people? |:

[Megamom]

Who are you people? |:

Spartans O:


Well this subject is interesting.... Pas says this is a hobby, you can heed some advice, TwilightChrono I started to like you... from below, and thanks to the advice I could find my way, I'm not a great editor and not make AMVs for praise... everything is just fun, good or bad advice is important to know which advice to follow, without destroying the prospect of fun.

[Pwolf]

My whole life, I've never never followed the current trend. I've never been a follower, always a leader of sorts. I'm just used to doing things my own way, and I'm afraid that if I start doing things like everyone else, I'll just become another faceless person in the crowd. I wish to maintain my individuality as a person, an editor and as a husband.

So forgive me for not wanting to adhere top common editing techniques. I just don't feel that all that fancy editing isn't really necessary to make a video enjoyable or otherwise. It's all the passion you have for doing something and the amount of effort you put into your videos.

And it's not just video's. It's anything you do. So forgive me for not wanting to be a follower. Not to mention that I've read all the guys that have been put on the org. And frankly, I didn't really understand it all. I mean, I did....but I didn't. Telling me it's recommended to do stuff like this, and stuff like that, and and it would be best if you.......

Get it out of my face. Editing Philosophy, Music Philosophy? I prefer to listen and feel the music. Not feel what a book tells me I'm suppose to feel. I'm stubborn. I get it. But I feel a lot of what I say makes sense as well. Although to you all, your probably sitting there say what the fuck is this guy's problem. I don't blame you. I just prefer to break way from the mold.

And please. Tastes and human perception are always changing, so eventually, those books are going to go out of date. Maybe not now, maybe not in my life-time, but eventually they will. What will you do then? It's proven that people don't like change. Which is why I believe everybody edits almost the same way or at least in ways the guides tell them too. I'm just not a big fan of conformity.

damn dude, no one here is telling you to conform to anything. It's called having an open mind. You read and learn. then you apply what you've learned, or you don't. We are asking you to educate yourself so you have more understanding. Doesn't mean you have to follow the rules to the letter or listen to anyone. You don't even have to read about any of these theories but if someone gives you advice you should at least listen to it and not think you are being turned into a robot.

Pwolf

[JudgeHolden]

Why is Jay hiding in my closet with a notepad?

[BasharOfTheAges]

to sum up: "Bawwwwwwww! Empirical evidence gained through hundreds of years of scientific discovery makes me feel bad because it limits me and makes me think i'm not special and shit."

[Castor Troy]

Almost all Castor's amvs nowadays contain masking or photoshopping, and make it very hard for people who don't know how to do that, to get anywhere in a Con AMV Contest or otherwise.

Fixed.

[Moonie]

I never edited in Orthadox or Un-orthadox before.
I've always used Adobe Premier and sometimes photoshop.