Kazaa........? [using downloaded footage]

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Post by trythil » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:40 pm

trythil wrote: No, because of the OTHER law that AMVs break, which is that nobody else but the copyright owner of a work can authorize a derivative work. The only "legal" AMV is one that (a) uses totally original audio and video or (b) has secured permission from copyright holders. Even then, if you ripped the footage from DVDs or defeated Macrovision, you could still be charged under the DMCA.

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Clarification --

I don't know all that much about Australian copyright law (hell, I don't know that much about US copyright law :P ), so maybe you'd be fine. AMVers in the US, though, are breaking laws left and right when you AMV from DVD source.

Practically, of course, it doesn't matter, since we're all just small-fry.
At least it doesn't matter until a proper DRM implementation starts becoming mainstream. I doubt you'll be able to rip DVDs for long, then.

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Post by jonmartensen » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:43 pm

WW you have several problems to circumvent before that would be applicable.

1) The sole purpose of "ripping" the material would have to be that this is a non profit library/archive/educational institution that is doing the "ripping" to determine if it will get authorization for use of it.

so

..a) AMV's are not used to determine if this site will purchase the viewing rights to the video used

..b) After "ripping" the footage, Copyright and fair use law would still have to be followed (which amv's don't"

..c) You still have the issue of the music copyrights (and ripping which could technically be illegal under the same provisions that make ripping dvd's illegal)


and I just previewed and trthil beat me to the explanations (twice)....:|
and he's right about this applying only to the US. It is more than likely different depending on the country you are in.
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Post by OmniStrata » Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:47 pm

OtakuForLife wrote:Oww guys I thought I was harsh. Do what you like cuase
let's not forget Omni's Vandard AMV was fansubs. Look in the
right hand corner there's an E-F logo (Elite Fansubs)
However if it looks like crap we will have to hunt you down :)
And yes, before I get assaulted, that video is VERRYY old and what's more is that I asked whether or not it's worth wasting my energy to "redo" the vid from scratch using the dvds I bought DOMESTICALLY [cough] not HK bs... :p

And then I got a "you should use ur energy on newer vids". So, I'm going to assume that the video was soo bad that it shouldn't be remastered to dvd anyway since it's no big deal... ^_^

Hey, if you want NEW AS BABY BORN amvs, you've got like NO CHOICE but to go the route of digisubs. Thankfully, digisubbers are getting better and better with their encodes. The question is if you have the patience to either edit around the subs, edit OUT the subs, or both... ^_^

Good luck. Oh, if you're downloading licensed stuff, you can go fuck yourself...

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Post by NME » Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:50 pm

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Post by post-it » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:01 am

huh ?!

VanDread footage is easy to come by, Beta 1" and/or DVD's are both available.
But, when you concider that the 3rd stage [arrival] failed to sell while 2nd Stage
was being released; I fail to see the use in taking old footage and trying to make
it seem new again!

- just my opinion on this thought ^^;;;;;

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Post by jonmartensen » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:19 am

post-it wrote:huh ?!

VanDread footage is easy to come by, Beta 1" and/or DVD's are both available.
But, when you concider that the 3rd stage [arrival] failed to sell while 2nd Stage
was being released; I fail to see the use in taking old footage and trying to make
it seem new again!

- just my opinion on this thought ^^;;;;;
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Post by OmniStrata » Fri Aug 22, 2003 1:31 am

There was a 3rd Stage [series?!]
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