Pre-written scripts and instructions [split]

[AMV_4000]

- The guide process is unilaterally the right process

That's one of my biggies.

And this isn't exactly related to the .org, but I hate the fact that people post AVS scripts for specific anime DVDs on the AMVWiki. What's next? People posting Premiere project files of popular songs with all the sync points marked up?

while your at it, i dont like people using xvid divx or mpeg 1 or 2. you people need to make your own codecs for your videos! i hate the fact that people write their codecs out and then you guys take them and use them in your amvs!

now, dosnt that sound kinda stupid?

[StudioKZ]

while your at it, i dont like people using xvid divx or mpeg 1 or 2. you people need to make your own codecs for your videos! i hate the fact that people write their codecs out and then you guys take them and use them in your amvs!

now, dosnt that sound kinda stupid?

It does sound stupid, too bad it's completely non-sequitor to the argument at hand. You're arguing why people should write their own programming language instead of using C++ when we're arguing that people should write their own programs instead of using Macros that write programs for them.

[Scintilla]

Mad World might've been ripped, but those Synch Point FLCL discs are godawful anyway.

Please say you're joking -- if you think Synch-Point's FLCL discs were <i>bad</i> (from a perspective of video quality), then try, say, TRSI's Kare Kano release sometime.

[Nightowl]

then try, say, TRSI's Kare Kano release sometime.

NOOO! That's the point anyway, right? I'm glad I went with the old fashioned way for Playground Love now. However, I think we did use AVISynth with that one, so it's moot. Also, the discs I had were bootlegs.

I don't know what the Kare Kano release discs look like ripped, and I never will. However, the fact that there were frames on the FLCL discs with artifacting and bleeding so bad that two frames would conjoin into one - NOT interlacing - pissed me off. Once again why I'm glad I have the R2s. Much better. And if the particular discs I have simply suffer from bad compression or faulty discs from the factory, well, once again why I still don't trust digital media as the be-all end-all. All media formats have their advantages and disadvantages, this happens to be one from DVD. There are some things you CAN'T clean up.

Congratulations, Scintilla, you've gotten me into a quality debate. ARE YA HAPPY! Wait... what is TRSI? I'm beginning to think I really don't belong in the AMV world anymore and my coming back after a year hiatus was premature. Time to go back to the industry and beg for work.

-N

[Corran]

Wait... what is TRSI?

TRSI is The Right Stuf International. A very good retailer though their dvd release of Kare Kano is one of the worst looking releases I've seen. Problems include, heavy artifacting, field blending, rainbowing, and desaturation, among many other things.

Ex:

[pen-pen2002]

Different people focus on different things within the AMV creation process.

You could force people to write their own scripts, but you can't force them to like it, or to experiment. (If you take that argument far enough you might as well say that we should abolish guides altogether. )

Personnally I belive that it's the final filtering and compression that is the most important to fine tune unless you want to drastically change the look of the anime or match it to the look of another anime.

Sometimes you only need a couple seconds from an anime and you don't want to spend an hour cleaning it up.

Anyways, overall I think they are a good idea. Will people abuse them? Probably. Just remember that other people might not share your views on how an AMV should or should not be made. And who is it for to say they are wrong?

[Otohiko]

Ex:

Here to you, comrades, obvious case - I such script not had - however, and that?

My clips to KareKano appeared khrenovo. Represent, as it would be a good thing, if this script was reached to me into the hands...

[Sephiroth]

I can't beleave this. So basicly if you know how to make Kare Kano look good and i ask you how and you wont tell me bause I have to work for it. OK Lets make everyon else look crappy so i can downplay them because their concept, timing ect... beat mine.

so
In essance what this say that everyones mpeg one vids are crap and shouldn't even be watched. What foolish editor would dare have low quality versions of thier videos
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=3332


On a final note if the entire vid quality issue pales in comparisen to everyones compositing. Which speaking on a professional level is pathedic.

I can understand eternal debates on the legality/artistic intent but rabling on about making video quality worse or better. Please spare us this stupidity.

SHAME ON YOU ALL.

Bye. (not bothering with this topic again)

[Corran]

I can't beleave this. So basicly if you know how to make Kare Kano look good and i ask you how and you wont tell me bause I have to work for it.

I'm pretty sure you are just mentioning this in general in regards to the thread topic and that it isn't directed at me, but since you posted in regards to the Kare Kano example I just wanted to make it clear that not everyone is like that. If you asked me and some others at this site, we would give you scripts that we made or at least point you in the right direction. The reason I personally haven't posted my scripts on AMVwiki is due mainly to laziness than anything else. I don't want to have to deal with the required formatting, etc. (It should be noted that this particular script is very different now as I constantly tweak with it in attempt to remove the colorbanding/retain details. [And I probably will never consider it to be the best I can get it...])

[Scintilla]

However, the fact that there were frames on the FLCL discs with artifacting and bleeding so bad that two frames would conjoin into one - NOT interlacing - pissed me off.

... Frame blending was a big problem with NGE and Kare Kano, yes, but I have never spotted a single blended frame in FLCL in the two years I've had (and been working with) the DVDs.