Ek leaving... and maybe me too

Machine · Post by **Machine** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:52 am

THE WAR HAS BEGUN!

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:53 am

Beowulf wrote:
Wonka wrote: Will you go out with me punistation?
Back off bitch, she's mine.

Jen: Wow, little miss popular, aren't ya?
Don't worry about me, I already have a girlfriend, but her name DOES happen to be Jen

(AKA MayukaBug or Jade heh... She never posts on this board though.)

Org Profile · Post by **MaboroshiStudio** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:54 am

Punistation,
what I was getting at was doing away with current reviewing and get more to the basics which is having the amvs catalogued very much like you even pointed out. I am not going to get into a charcater debate here as well since that will accomplish nothing.

I think you might have saw my comments coming off as elitest and I can see why, but you have taken things way out of context to make it seem like I said things I didn't. My problem was with the current reviewing system and that I think a better alternative solution could be devised. I don't like the idea of creator only voting (I agree this is very elitest and not a solution) and maybe Phade should amend some of the changes he has made in the past. Originally, he had it so you could vote and leave no feedback... he changed that so people wouldn't be giving out overglorified reviews with no content, but of course that didn't stop people since now they usually say great or prefect.

I also didn't mean give an ultimatum and don't expect Phade to bend to my will... as if. I was making comments on why I was considering leaving and suggestions. I also have personal reasons to take a step back away from a-m-v.org since I just don't have the time and don't even have my website / videos up currently. So why don't you not make assumptions about what I meant... and if you saw it coming off as a ultimatum I apologize since that wasn't my intention. If you disagree with me fine and try to debate about it without resorting flame tatics. I agree my comments were a bit rash and while talking with Machine more after I posted I really didn't like the idea of creator only and thumb fan reviews.

I also was opening the subject up for debate... not that what I thought was law. I was throwing ideas out there and opening up debate so that people could share their views. I don't appreciate how you have attacked me in the manner as you have vs asking for clarification first of what I was getting at... I might have worded it poorly, but you have taken this really personally obviously so much that you had to flame me and I apologize for offending you. Also, in no way was I directing my comments towards reviewers that actually put effort into it. I know I have been bad myself not responding to all of my reviews. As far as not valuing reviews from people I don't know it is hard honestly to accept a review from a total stranger. I didn't say always (as you would have people believe) since I have had some very insight reviews from people I don't know that have made me look at things in a different light.

I would just like to see reviews with actual comments and what I said on worship reviews was talk about reviews with no content and perfect 10s... now if you are defending that style of reviewing that is your opinion (note I am not saying this is what you meant), but don't make it out like I am an elitest for bringing this point up. I hope this clears things up a little bit and hope you accept my apology.

Joe

Machine · Post by **Machine** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:57 am

The plot thickens as the story begins to unfold....

SpPANDA · Post by **SpPANDA** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:58 am

we love you joe.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:58 am

I'd say "Can't we all just get along," but hopefully no flame war will combust.

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:09 am

Nah a flame war can't happen now. We flew right by that and now were marching strait into "intelectual debate" territory.

No fun, no fun

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:27 am

I'm gonna have to agree with Joe, in that the review system here definately needs some work. Unfortunately as much as I believe this, I don't have some sort of awesome solution that will solve everything. While the 10's across the board give me a nice ego boost, they don't leave me any room to learn about what worked and what didn't work about one of my videos. The average score on this site was something around an 8, so giving someone a 7 is considered a bad score. Now, perhaps I'm a bit crazy, but on a scale from 1 to 10, 5 should be the average score, 10 should be amazing and brilliand, and 1 should be downright aweful. This is obviously not the case with this site.

What I really wanted to bring up is another review site that is similar in scope as this, but much bigger, and that'd be <a href="http://www.imdb.com">IMDB</a>. They have people rate movies on a scale from 1 to 10, and manage to actually get an average of around 5. I'm almost inclined to say that giving the option to just give an overall rating to a video in it's simplicity might cause people to think a bit more about the scale and how they want to score it. Then again, thumbs up, neutral or thumbs down is probably about as simple as one can get, but you get less interesting looking scores in my opinion.

Still, the thing to remember is that animemusicvideos.org is supposed to be an online database of as many anime music videos as possible. Aspects such as the forums, the review capability, the journals are all secondary, though they should all contribute to enjoyment of this hobby in general.

TobinHood · Post by **TobinHood** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:38 am

Go Bogo!

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:44 am

TobinHood wrote:Go Bogo!

No offense, but me too posts don't exactly add much to discussions in general, unless people are in the middle of a steel cage grudge match and thus audience cheering gives the battlers morale.