AMV Review #8: 2007-05-07

meleechampion · Post by **meleechampion** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:24 pm

Sub0 wrote:
Otohiko wrote: I don't think effective execution = originality.
*sigh* well I do o.0. The very word originality in itself is incredibly moronic if you think about it (which nobody's OBVIOUSLY done...). I mean, take your typical definition. Originality has something to do with if it's done before. You get high points for if you engineer something different out of it?? Makes sense?? No... that is effort. If not how do you define effort???

IMO that is effort and like Katie said, if it's effective, if ya like it, if it DOES what it's supposed to do. Than I'd consider it original. Thus the phrase 'my! THAT'S original!!' I mean... obviously nobody's put much thought into the review system we'd put in place here since it's inception.

I think you're a little confused on the difference between effort and originality. You can put a lot of effort into making a good video that isn't original. You can throw a bunch of effects together with a new anime and a brand new song. You'll get a video that looks/feels like nothing else before it, and still not spend more than a few hours on it.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:50 pm

you can put no effort into making a good video thats original as well O:

godix · Post by **godix** » Wed May 09, 2007 3:00 pm

Otohiko wrote:Which brings me to why I hate the 'originality' criteria in the first place. I think it's both misunderstood and encourages "creative" dicking-around for the authors who look at feedback like this and decide that it's required to be all artsy. Whereas I think this video and others show that while originality is good, and can make your video stand out, for a good viewing it is still optional.

Originality has it's place though. If you'll recall a few weeks ago we did an eva vid where the general consensus was it was decent but no one was really awed by it since we've all seen so many eva vids and that one had nothing spectacularly new to it. Originality isn't required to make a good video but without it vids tend to get lost in the masses.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:55 pm

godix wrote:
Otohiko wrote:Which brings me to why I hate the 'originality' criteria in the first place. I think it's both misunderstood and encourages "creative" dicking-around for the authors who look at feedback like this and decide that it's required to be all artsy. Whereas I think this video and others show that while originality is good, and can make your video stand out, for a good viewing it is still optional.
Originality has it's place though. If you'll recall a few weeks ago we did an eva vid where the general consensus was it was decent but no one was really awed by it since we've all seen so many eva vids and that one had nothing spectacularly new to it. Originality isn't required to make a good video but without it vids tend to get lost in the masses.

Well that's exactly what I meant though, especially since I was the one raising the whole 'it's an eva video' thing two weeks ago. I agree that standing-out can definitely be influenced by originality, if that's what one is looking to do.

I would be careful with it though; I personally have trouble with the idea of encouraging everyone to be original just for the sake of being original. Sometimes a solid execution of an expected but good idea is just fine.

godix · Post by **godix** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:59 pm

Otohiko wrote:I would be careful with it though; I personally have trouble with the idea of encouraging everyone to be original just for the sake of being original. Sometimes a solid execution of an expected but good idea is just fine.

That's odd, I've never been accused me of being encouraging before.

I don't think we should encourage anyone to do anything other than what they want. However my opinion of their video will depend on the originality of it, among other things. It's not the only thing of course, but it's far more important to my enjoyment that other op categories like video and audio quality or even effort for example.

teya · Post by **teya** » Fri May 11, 2007 2:54 pm

Missed the review this week - was at a cottage. Wanted to add my two cents, though.

I really liked this vid. I wasn't expecting a story because of the music style and also 'cause I couldn't understand the words, so I guess I kinda ignored that part. The music was all cirque-du-soleil-like, which was awesome. The upbeat song and flashy acrobatic scenes totally made me want to dance. I'm glad to hear it won an award, quite deserved.

As for originality, the choice of anime and song seem fairly rare... and the editing wasn't boring. I'm not sure how much more one can ask to get a good score on originality.

quadir · Post by **quadir** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:35 pm

Reminder that AMV-Review is tonight @ 8:30 PM EDT. Everyone's invited.