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- Bote
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I agree with Beo. Every creative expression comes from the inside. The subconscious, dormant self
is where all the creative energy resides. Now, some of us like to negate their mental states and supress
them. A very small part of human population actually realizes how to use all of that unconscious energy
and they filter it through our conscious self. Depending on the level of filtration (or how much we avoided
to let into our consciousness) the creative expression might be closer to the truth of one's inner state or
not. On the other hand, the unconscious energy might completely change its nature (we have this in anime a lot
you know, a good boy or girl who does nothing wrong, but has a demon or a dark side which is equally present).
An artist can consciously even change the content in order to fit it in some sort of context or so. This is why
the expression "all poets are liars" exists since poetry involves a lot more rational presence than painting or
composing.
Avoiding getting into psychology anymore I'll just say that even if you are a person who considers AMV's to be just
a time waster and don't put a lot of effort in it that says a lot of your personality as well. For such creators AMV's
aren't a "serious art" and they do not wish to put in some sweat because they see no point since they doubt anyone
will ever acknowledge amvs as art. Those kinds of people stick to the things that are already accepted and considered
to be good by the public and do not like to venture. Or so I think
Everything a person creates tells us something about him/her, even AMV's do. Like Beo said "It might be a very well hidden,
not-often-talked-about portion of their character, but it is there".
is where all the creative energy resides. Now, some of us like to negate their mental states and supress
them. A very small part of human population actually realizes how to use all of that unconscious energy
and they filter it through our conscious self. Depending on the level of filtration (or how much we avoided
to let into our consciousness) the creative expression might be closer to the truth of one's inner state or
not. On the other hand, the unconscious energy might completely change its nature (we have this in anime a lot
you know, a good boy or girl who does nothing wrong, but has a demon or a dark side which is equally present).
An artist can consciously even change the content in order to fit it in some sort of context or so. This is why
the expression "all poets are liars" exists since poetry involves a lot more rational presence than painting or
composing.
Avoiding getting into psychology anymore I'll just say that even if you are a person who considers AMV's to be just
a time waster and don't put a lot of effort in it that says a lot of your personality as well. For such creators AMV's
aren't a "serious art" and they do not wish to put in some sweat because they see no point since they doubt anyone
will ever acknowledge amvs as art. Those kinds of people stick to the things that are already accepted and considered
to be good by the public and do not like to venture. Or so I think
Everything a person creates tells us something about him/her, even AMV's do. Like Beo said "It might be a very well hidden,
not-often-talked-about portion of their character, but it is there".
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you don't think a girl with pretty eyes the animation represents you?mexicanjunior wrote:I dont think my AMV's represent my character or philosphy on anything. They were just timewasters...
KioAtWork: I'm so bored. I don't have class again for another half hour.
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Re: Do you think that...
I've read up on people who've directed and produced movies and from what I can tell [not having met them personally], it's not 100% true.Beowulf wrote:Do you think that you can judge the intimate details of a person's character based on their artistic output?
I'd never have guessed James Cameron was a tyrannical director from movies like Terminator and Titanic. Nor would I think Steven Chow was a public comedian from his 'making of' dvd commentaries. The guy is rather dull and straightforward lacking any energy during interviews...
I think the same is true for amv editors. My lax moral code isn't all that prevalent in my amvs. My 'worst' amv in that regard is "Gimme the Beat - Feel the Rhythm" but in regards to how strong my id works, one can note [my wife does], that my hentai collection on my cds and hdd is 'almost' larger if not the same size as my regular anime collection...
*looks over shoulder*
You'd also never guess that she watches more of my hentai than my 'regular' anime...
So I think what people display in their works vs. who they 'really are' aren't THAT close, but it just depends on the person...
"Strength lies in action. Let the weak react to me..." - Kamahl, Pit Fighter from Magic: the Gathering
"That is a mistake many of my enemies make. They think before they act. I act before I think!" - Vortigern from Merlin ('98)
"I AM REBORN!" - Dark Schneider Bastard!! OAV
"That is a mistake many of my enemies make. They think before they act. I act before I think!" - Vortigern from Merlin ('98)
"I AM REBORN!" - Dark Schneider Bastard!! OAV
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I am not one for art, I personally hate it with a passion, where I can see the view of that fact that art does obviously express emotions that the artist is feeling (thus why they create what they do), for amv's it would make sense wouldn't it?
No. It needs to be complicated thus I'm going to dumb it down slightly to 2 on the scale... 1. I have music I enjoy, 2. I have an anime I like/hate whatever, 3. I have time that I have to waste because I have no social life.
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amv
Thanks for playing.
And for those that do place -that- much effort into a video because you're too fucking scared to let go of your emotions, learn to life with the shit, weather it's good or bad get the fuck over it and don't waste your time in this life sitting in front of a fucking video editor adding clips of a cartoon into a time line, then wait 10 minutes for rendering, 5 minutes for cleaning, exporting, 20 minutes for upload time and then wait 3 month's for a decent opinion you enjoy to be attached to the damn list of hopeless fucks who also have nothing better to do with their lives than watch these ridiculous time-wasting videos.
/flame end
No. It needs to be complicated thus I'm going to dumb it down slightly to 2 on the scale... 1. I have music I enjoy, 2. I have an anime I like/hate whatever, 3. I have time that I have to waste because I have no social life.
=
amv
Thanks for playing.
And for those that do place -that- much effort into a video because you're too fucking scared to let go of your emotions, learn to life with the shit, weather it's good or bad get the fuck over it and don't waste your time in this life sitting in front of a fucking video editor adding clips of a cartoon into a time line, then wait 10 minutes for rendering, 5 minutes for cleaning, exporting, 20 minutes for upload time and then wait 3 month's for a decent opinion you enjoy to be attached to the damn list of hopeless fucks who also have nothing better to do with their lives than watch these ridiculous time-wasting videos.
/flame end
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Art imitates life...sometimes to absurdity.
I think that for most people, in order to create something that takes as much time as some amv's do, you have to be putting something from your soul into it to keep it going. It's tied to the motivation. WHY would you spend all those hours creating your vid?
1.) attention whore/win contests
2.) because it's something you're interested in enough to devote the time to
And if you chose #2, I don't think there's any way you could create something and not have yourself imprinted all over it. Unless you tried. REALLY hard. Because if you're motivated enough to make a video and step out of your boundaries, then you're interested enough in stepping out and trying something new that it becomes part of you.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, I think you can learn things about a person's character through the things they create, some to a way bigger extent than others.
Maybe Tarantino's portrayal of women is a joke. Maybe he has a really good wife and they get along really well and he respects her, etc. but decides that's kinda boring for the screen, so he's gonna charicature the other side....playing to his audience, because he's stereotyping the type of men who will come and watch his flicks?
For my daydream vid, I think my childlike sense of wonder and appreciation of simple things is blatantly apparent :p
I think that for most people, in order to create something that takes as much time as some amv's do, you have to be putting something from your soul into it to keep it going. It's tied to the motivation. WHY would you spend all those hours creating your vid?
1.) attention whore/win contests
2.) because it's something you're interested in enough to devote the time to
And if you chose #2, I don't think there's any way you could create something and not have yourself imprinted all over it. Unless you tried. REALLY hard. Because if you're motivated enough to make a video and step out of your boundaries, then you're interested enough in stepping out and trying something new that it becomes part of you.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, I think you can learn things about a person's character through the things they create, some to a way bigger extent than others.
Maybe Tarantino's portrayal of women is a joke. Maybe he has a really good wife and they get along really well and he respects her, etc. but decides that's kinda boring for the screen, so he's gonna charicature the other side....playing to his audience, because he's stereotyping the type of men who will come and watch his flicks?
For my daydream vid, I think my childlike sense of wonder and appreciation of simple things is blatantly apparent :p
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Actually my fan-girls are all mostly 14-15-16ish too ;p (and tend to lean more towards the emo type girls that cling to sad depressing videos like my hinamori and Mai hime ones ... )dwchang wrote:Were you at AWA 2004 or something? -_- If I added 10 to the age of said fangirls, I'd have my own harem like that Bakadeshi guy .TaranT wrote:OR...considering the crowd of fangirls in his wake, he may have a perfectly realistic view of love and women, or at least, young women.Example: Daniel Chang makes lots of cartoon romance video using sappy 80s songs, so he must have a sappy and unrealistic view of love and women.
And how could you tell the difference between one conclusion or the other without a waving of hands to sense the waves coming off his brain?
Sometimes a video...is just a video.
Did I mention I hate you?
As for the question, I don't think so, I'm a pretty happy guy in general and I tend to create videos that have primarily sad events in them and/or a sad ending. (at least in my story driven ones) For me it tends to reflect more my interests than the type of person I am.
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not necessarily.
"expressionism," as we call it, is one of many potential uses of art. we can use art for social messages, entertainment, competition, and other reasons. making amvs for others' entertainment doesn't conclusively imply attention-whoring. people can be, believe it or not, social beings, and enjoy suffering through something that will bring happiness to others.
i have created some videos for expressionist purposes, some for entertainment, and some both.
"expressionism," as we call it, is one of many potential uses of art. we can use art for social messages, entertainment, competition, and other reasons. making amvs for others' entertainment doesn't conclusively imply attention-whoring. people can be, believe it or not, social beings, and enjoy suffering through something that will bring happiness to others.
i have created some videos for expressionist purposes, some for entertainment, and some both.
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