Isn't it obvious though? That was just their final versions they "sent in". They uploaded them already to the org, and Kit was just grabbing them as if they were sendspace files. >_>Ghet wrote:it used footage from amvs people had released earlierJaddziaDax wrote:\Ghet wrote:try telling kit that =/The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:That and we kinda have a rule that says not to use footage from other AMVs.
uh that wasn't "taking peoples footage" that was a "Multi-Editor Project" >.>
even though it gave them credit, he still used a bunch of other videos.
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Yeah, really. Who even does that?Ghet wrote:it used footage from amvs people had released earlierJaddziaDax wrote:\Ghet wrote:try telling kit that =/The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:That and we kinda have a rule that says not to use footage from other AMVs.
uh that wasn't "taking peoples footage" that was a "Multi-Editor Project" >.>
even though it gave them credit, he still used a bunch of other videos.
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I stole footage from my own videos before...
But hell, look at it from a purely egotistical perspective - if you're going to steal, at least try to do it in a way that makes neither the video nor yourself look like (an) ass. Clearly taking poor-quality footage or instantly-recognizable edits from other editors isn't a good way to avoid looking like (an) ass.
And frankly, given the accessibility of quality footage and the receding prices of DVDs, I find that the effort that goes into bass-ackwards attempts to acquire footage ends up being more 'costly' than just being the (an) honest (video-editing) farmer.
But hell, look at it from a purely egotistical perspective - if you're going to steal, at least try to do it in a way that makes neither the video nor yourself look like (an) ass. Clearly taking poor-quality footage or instantly-recognizable edits from other editors isn't a good way to avoid looking like (an) ass.
And frankly, given the accessibility of quality footage and the receding prices of DVDs, I find that the effort that goes into bass-ackwards attempts to acquire footage ends up being more 'costly' than just being the (an) honest (video-editing) farmer.
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I think the same... I wouldn't have spend so much money if not in order to create amvs.Code wrote: That's exactly why I think that the anime industry and *most* of the music industry doesn't shut down these sites. Because we inspire other to go out and buy their music and DVD's. I know from personal experience that I've bought nearly 80% of the anime that I own based on videos/comments found on this site. I don't buy music as often, although I've bought probably 6-7 albums on Itunes for my Ipod based on songs I've heard here.
Even though I don't come form a rich family and am not learning a job in wich teh programms get involved, my dream is to have a legal cs4 on my computer.
But that'll have to wait a few years till I get a job.
I'd never buy expensive software like that if the guides and people on animemusicvideos.org wouldn't have helped/explained it to me.
as for the sources.. yes animes are damn expensive. I only buy animes to watch them. I get the feeling that downloaded footage actaully has better quality than nomral dvd's... but of course as soon as Blue-ray is the new standart that'll change.
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If you harvest footage from the tube, you probably don't download or watch many "org-only" amvs. On the tube, dvd-ripped vids have as bad quality as frankenvids. It's all bad looking. So, no, no one who only watches overcompressed tube vids is going to notice that yours was bad before you uploaded it. Just don't put it on the org because it's going to be glaringly obvious next to pretty dvd ripped mp4s.
Other ways people can tell when footage was downloaded - the series itself. All the early Naruto vids were done using downloaded episodes or bootlegged dvds. Maybe one person out of dozens actually coughed up a fortune for the Japanese originals. But I doubt it. If the series is only available to buy in Japan, you can bet most if not all of the vids on the org are using downloaded footage, which is often much better quality than even the shiniest bootleg dvds. Even some licensed series have ovas and "missing arcs" that weren't included in the non-Japanese releases. If you see a vid using ovas from YYH, you can bet that person downloaded the footage. [I know where you can buy the Japanese dvds, I own them and have given the link to others who now own them, so there are a few org editors who didn't download this footage. But that's a minor exception.] If you see a vid using the last season of Digimon 01, you know they downloaded it because that arc was considered too "violent" to be licensed in the US (and few to none of the early arcs made it to dvd, even when they were licensed). If you know the anime being used, you can make an educated guess as to where the editor got his footage.
As far as programs go, it depends on your outlook and how well you know the editor. I tend to assume the person is using pirated software until I find out otherwise. I just can't imagine anyone spending as much on a program they can download free as I spent on my second car. But I'm poor. I'm sure there are rich editors who really can put large sums into this hobby, and lucky people who happen to be in the right place at the right time to get things for discounts and "free access" due to school and work. Rare exceptions. On average, assuming a random editor downloaded his copy of the most expensive/newest editing program is a safe assumption. If there were as many rich editors as there are Premiere-made vids, we'd never have problems getting enough donations to keep the site up to date.
To the "I can't afford it" cry, I say "too bad." This is a hobby. It's a privilege, not a right. If you're too young to work and save for the luxuries you want, you'll just have to wait till you're older.
Personally, I've spent a fortune on anime for use in amvs, renting when I couldn't afford to pay $25 per dvd with 3 eps each for really long series, buying a few Japanese dvds that I can't even watch just to have quality footage, and, yes, I did buy a few cds back in the day to rip for vids. It's an expensive hobby. Even if you use 'bad' sources, someone has to pay for the internet connection, the harddrive space to store the stuff, the new computer that can run the new codecs, etc. If someone else (parents/school) supplies half this stuff to you, be grateful for what you're already getting for free instead of expecting more handouts.
Other ways people can tell when footage was downloaded - the series itself. All the early Naruto vids were done using downloaded episodes or bootlegged dvds. Maybe one person out of dozens actually coughed up a fortune for the Japanese originals. But I doubt it. If the series is only available to buy in Japan, you can bet most if not all of the vids on the org are using downloaded footage, which is often much better quality than even the shiniest bootleg dvds. Even some licensed series have ovas and "missing arcs" that weren't included in the non-Japanese releases. If you see a vid using ovas from YYH, you can bet that person downloaded the footage. [I know where you can buy the Japanese dvds, I own them and have given the link to others who now own them, so there are a few org editors who didn't download this footage. But that's a minor exception.] If you see a vid using the last season of Digimon 01, you know they downloaded it because that arc was considered too "violent" to be licensed in the US (and few to none of the early arcs made it to dvd, even when they were licensed). If you know the anime being used, you can make an educated guess as to where the editor got his footage.
As far as programs go, it depends on your outlook and how well you know the editor. I tend to assume the person is using pirated software until I find out otherwise. I just can't imagine anyone spending as much on a program they can download free as I spent on my second car. But I'm poor. I'm sure there are rich editors who really can put large sums into this hobby, and lucky people who happen to be in the right place at the right time to get things for discounts and "free access" due to school and work. Rare exceptions. On average, assuming a random editor downloaded his copy of the most expensive/newest editing program is a safe assumption. If there were as many rich editors as there are Premiere-made vids, we'd never have problems getting enough donations to keep the site up to date.
To the "I can't afford it" cry, I say "too bad." This is a hobby. It's a privilege, not a right. If you're too young to work and save for the luxuries you want, you'll just have to wait till you're older.
Personally, I've spent a fortune on anime for use in amvs, renting when I couldn't afford to pay $25 per dvd with 3 eps each for really long series, buying a few Japanese dvds that I can't even watch just to have quality footage, and, yes, I did buy a few cds back in the day to rip for vids. It's an expensive hobby. Even if you use 'bad' sources, someone has to pay for the internet connection, the harddrive space to store the stuff, the new computer that can run the new codecs, etc. If someone else (parents/school) supplies half this stuff to you, be grateful for what you're already getting for free instead of expecting more handouts.
I've bought a few. I didn't own a cd player. I only listened to cassettes in my car and mp3s on my computer (in a Winamp playlist). There were a few songs I wanted that I found for $0.99 each legally downloaded (and they accepted paypal cc payment). I *had* found "free" copies of the songs, but all of them had quality issues. So I bought them and I still have them and listen to them, unlike my cd collection which has been sitting in a cd-album since I moved home from college and no longer had a working cd player. Buying one mp3 at a time is convenient for casual fans who only listen to random one-shots on the computer. If I wanted an entire cd of work, I'd buy one. But it would end up in that cd album/case/thing to rot after I'd ripped and converted all the songs to wav/mp3 to play on my computer.Kevmaster wrote:I still don't understand why anyone would buy songs online, it's like...the most stupid thing ever.
