Do you guys frown on fansubs?

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:40 am

Zarxrax wrote:I really don't see a reason why anyone would use fansubs, unless its an EXTREMELY rare title that just doesnt hardly exist anywhere else. It's not all that hard to find raw footage. Now people will come up and tell you you shouldn't use downloaded footage at all because it sucks, but hey, if you dont tell them you used downloaded footage, then 97% of the people here wouldn't even know. Now of course dvd is better (and harder to work with), it just depends how far you're willing to go for quality.

I agree, for licenced animes RAW footage should be the norm instead of fansubs since RAW footage is not only going to better visually, but also not have SUBS.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:15 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:but wouldnt that mean kthulu is the Devil's Advocate since he is the one defending the piracy and I'm arguing against it?

I'm not defending anything. You like to jump to conclusions a lot, apparently.

As I mentioned in another thread, North American anime distributors probably need to ramp up licensing and distribution, if digisubs cut into profits so much. The need to update or change their business model, or perish.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:40 pm

so I've been arguing FOR the use of fansubs and you HAVENT? I thought I was the one saying it was bad this whole time.

well I'm glad I got THAT little mistake cleared up.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:42 am

Dude, Phade's "Laws" are meant to be taken with a grain of salt

If someone uses fansubs, Phade's not going to order the Inviso-Mod to that persons house and secretly format his hard drive or something

It's just advice to make everything look better and a little more legal, that's all. Where people really get pissed off is when someone outright rips scenes from another person's video.

[MOD387: Sir, Rozard has found out our secret plan!]

[MOD999: Darn. Well, dismantle the Black Ops division then.]

[MOD387: Yes, sir!]

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 7:49 am

Zarxrax wrote:I really don't see a reason why anyone would use fansubs, unless its an EXTREMELY rare title that just doesnt hardly exist anywhere else. It's not all that hard to find raw footage.

Unfortunately, for some of the videos I made when first starting out, there just doesn't seem to be any source available other than the ancient VHS fansubs I've got of them (the particlar series being Tekki wa Kaizoku! and Combustible Campus Guardress). I haven't even been able to find raw footage from Japan for these, which sucks because they're quite good shows and I'd love to be able to use them in future videos.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:05 am

i agree with using fansubs only when they are exceptionally rare.

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Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:05 am

I agree also. There are some high quality fansubs out there. Plus, if you can get in contact with someone from a fansub group, you may be able to get raw footage from them. This is always nice because it will be better quality, and no hard encoded subtitles

I haven't done this myself, but I've heard other people say they have (I think iserlohn was one of them). As for the Mods....

Silly

Rain Strife · Post by **Rain Strife** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:23 am

I personally appreciate fansubs -- to a certain extent. i mean, if the anime isnt out in america, you can still watch it. But also, there are some "slite fansubbers" that cant seem to match the works words, sound, and picture together.

SQ · Post by SQ » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:39 pm

Zarxrax wrote:I really don't see a reason why anyone would use fansubs, unless its an EXTREMELY rare title that just doesnt hardly exist anywhere else.

Like Gundam X? Or Gundam ZZ?

What about Sonic Underground?(okay, that was realeased in the US, but you can hardly find ANYTHING for it)

Chao · Post by **Chao** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:14 pm

That's because SU was crap. The best Sonic cartoon was SatAM (the one with the freedom fighters) followed by the Sonic OVA.