can we talk about these AMVs?

[CrackTheSky]

Cool stuff.

This is all great to hear. I've known too many editors who have been so intimidated by technical videos that they completely shut down and lose interest in the hobby altogether (or maybe it would be more appropriate to say I've seen this happen too many times...I guess I only know a few editors personally that this has happened to). I went through something like this for a few years and didn't edit anything at all. It sucked, but then I shifted my perspective and dropped the need to be super technical and my satisfaction with my own work has never been higher than it has for the last year and a half.

A big part of this is because, in that timeframe, I've gone out of my way to hunt down little-known and overlooked AMVs, and have found a lot of hidden gems that nobody knows about or remembers these days -- and I love them. And they're mostly very simple, unassuming videos that younger editors these days would probably not look twice at. And I think, "If I can make simple, to-the-point videos like this and even one other person can appreciate and enjoy it, even if it's years down the line and I never know about it, then I've done my job and it was worth my time."

Editing has gotten so much more fulfilling since I adopted that attitude. Now make all the cool things you always wanted to make

[Mol]

^True story.
This doesn't have to be my god complicated look 3k masks!@!@ .. But what if i can't see point in them other than visual.
Simplicity is cool too. Actually probably much better usually P:.

I also took my sweet time learning plenty of stuff. Like man i really want this still frame here , this scene that totally breaks the mood and other stuff but it's "awful". Usually ended up going for it then regretted endlessly D;. But yeah now i have something to laugh at ... But everybody sinks in information , editing, interpretation of editing (!), and other stuff in different speed.Some have great sense of it all from beginning, sometimes it can end up in years of trying. A while back i thought slow music is where I'm comfortable at, but it got boring, pacing got annoying like hell. It causes me headache if it's too even when i return to it (thought small one at least lol). So it's good to move between different stuff.

It's good to enjoy yourself on the road ,otherwise it really can get tiresome and boring more than anything, while nobody pays you for your struggle if any occurs.

[Sephirothskr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bytasIxDivI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5sJOrIeZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_OFyBYIgJA

Who are the people making these AMVs?

Why do they all look the same and follow the same structure? I mean, do they look the same to you or is it just me?

How do people find the time to keep making these technically-complicated, intensively-layered-effects-heavy AMVs? Does everyone who's not on the Org -- out there somewhere, I honestly don't know where -- crowdsource and share their masks now?

What I don't understand is how/why anyone would take the time to learn these kind of techniques, become an editor who's skilled enough to pull them off, and yet have absolutely no interest in making anything that's not a slightly different variation of the same idea again and again. I don't understand the motivation. I'm not half the editor that most people here are but I know for sure that the only reason I ever put time into this and tried to teach the ins and outs of these programs was because I had an idea that didn't exist, and I knew it never would unless I did something about it myself.

Why are there on-screen lyrics in all of these AMVs?

How did this get started? Has it become the new norm? Are the kind of AMVs we make here on the way out? Because these are all chalking up ridiculous numbers of views and these are the videos that people are watching when they're first getting into AMVs (or think they're getting into AMVs). Thanks to the Internet, enough people can redefine anything they feel like (example: within about 3 years, "dubstep" went from referring to something like this to something quite different).

Are these the "candy" AMVs that Fraulein was asking about?

Are these played at conventions or is this strictly a Youtube phenomenon?

Is it possible that I'm not just being condescending here, but am somehow missing out on how amazing these AMVs obviously are.

I'll take my answer off the air.

Crowdsourced masks. Now that's the best idea I've heard of all year.

[Dragonrider1227]

I know this thread is months old, but can I just say: my inner 13-year-old thanks you all.

Ever since I was a kid, I've always been an insecure AMV editor. I've been hanging around this place for, like, 15 years, but mostly stuck to TV shows with regards to editing. I never felt like I could keep up with the quality and innovation of other AMV editors, and I let that keep me from posting or finishing most of my AMV work.

I always had a lot of ideas, but I felt like in a world where 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' existed, there was really not much need for my modest contributions. As the years went on, and the works got more dazzling, I just abandoned AMV editing altogether because I knew I could never keep up with the top dogs. Maybe if I wanted to, I could have faked it and made decent knock-offs, but I simply had no desire to make those kinds of videos. I even ended up doing my own "candy" video for Buffy the Vampire Slayer just to see if I could get anywhere near what I was seeing be made here. I think my riff on the style was pretty polished, and I loved the challenge, but it wasn't innovative, and I had zero desire to ever make anything like it again.

It's refreshing to see that people are still very much interested in substance over style. 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' were and are still amazing because they so masterfully mesh both style and substance. Koopiskeva is a true innovator. But I think I had to reconcile for myself that I'm not, and that is okay. Being an excellent craftsman or journeyman is fine if that's what you're interested in, and making a simple, powerful statement is much better than making migraine-inducing rainbow-vomit that seems to only exist to engage everyone's inner speed freak.

Clearly, I've wasted far too much of my young life focusing on what other people were doing, and not enough time focusing on making videos that I enjoy making. Lesson learned.

Now off to finish the five Cowboy Bebop videos I've been sitting on for the last eight years.

I hear ya. I had similar issues until I started talking to more people here. It's so easy to feel intimidated, isn't it?

[Sephirothskr]

I know this thread is months old, but can I just say: my inner 13-year-old thanks you all.

Ever since I was a kid, I've always been an insecure AMV editor. I've been hanging around this place for, like, 15 years, but mostly stuck to TV shows with regards to editing. I never felt like I could keep up with the quality and innovation of other AMV editors, and I let that keep me from posting or finishing most of my AMV work.

I always had a lot of ideas, but I felt like in a world where 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' existed, there was really not much need for my modest contributions. As the years went on, and the works got more dazzling, I just abandoned AMV editing altogether because I knew I could never keep up with the top dogs. Maybe if I wanted to, I could have faked it and made decent knock-offs, but I simply had no desire to make those kinds of videos. I even ended up doing my own "candy" video for Buffy the Vampire Slayer just to see if I could get anywhere near what I was seeing be made here. I think my riff on the style was pretty polished, and I loved the challenge, but it wasn't innovative, and I had zero desire to ever make anything like it again.

It's refreshing to see that people are still very much interested in substance over style. 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' were and are still amazing because they so masterfully mesh both style and substance. Koopiskeva is a true innovator. But I think I had to reconcile for myself that I'm not, and that is okay. Being an excellent craftsman or journeyman is fine if that's what you're interested in, and making a simple, powerful statement is much better than making migraine-inducing rainbow-vomit that seems to only exist to engage everyone's inner speed freak.

Clearly, I've wasted far too much of my young life focusing on what other people were doing, and not enough time focusing on making videos that I enjoy making. Lesson learned. Also, it's amazing how sometimes the most well received videos are so simple, with little to no effects. And I'm sitting here like:
What the hell am I doing wrong. -_-

Now off to finish the five Cowboy Bebop videos I've been sitting on for the last eight years.

I hear ya. I had similar issues until I started talking to more people here. It's so easy to feel intimidated, isn't it?

I always felt that those videos are incredibly gimmicky. Like, there's no point to them other than to say 'WOAH THAT WAS COOL.' I might be wrong, but that's how I feel with some exceptions to some videos.

[Changelling]

Some people feel the need to hunt for reasons to criticize any video that discourages them, for this helps to... not discourage them? I guess?
Anyway these are normal AMVs, nothing over the top complex to think about, but they do take a lot more effort than our common semi-raw AMVs, and since the well executed visual effects are entertaining, the videos grow popular; rightfully so.

[JaddziaDax]

I have seen a lot of these types of amvs, and most of them are just people playing around with effects, it's a trend, it may or may not eventually die out.. but mask sharing, wow O:that's pretty nuts O:

Wish I knew that was a thing, I just may borrow some myself since I'm too freaking lazy to mask all the time...
j/p

I try not to compare my videos to this stuff, I just keep making what I like..

Besides this will always be my favorite text candy video

[Dragonrider1227]

I know this thread is months old, but can I just say: my inner 13-year-old thanks you all.

Ever since I was a kid, I've always been an insecure AMV editor. I've been hanging around this place for, like, 15 years, but mostly stuck to TV shows with regards to editing. I never felt like I could keep up with the quality and innovation of other AMV editors, and I let that keep me from posting or finishing most of my AMV work.

I always had a lot of ideas, but I felt like in a world where 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' existed, there was really not much need for my modest contributions. As the years went on, and the works got more dazzling, I just abandoned AMV editing altogether because I knew I could never keep up with the top dogs. Maybe if I wanted to, I could have faked it and made decent knock-offs, but I simply had no desire to make those kinds of videos. I even ended up doing my own "candy" video for Buffy the Vampire Slayer just to see if I could get anywhere near what I was seeing be made here. I think my riff on the style was pretty polished, and I loved the challenge, but it wasn't innovative, and I had zero desire to ever make anything like it again.

It's refreshing to see that people are still very much interested in substance over style. 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' were and are still amazing because they so masterfully mesh both style and substance. Koopiskeva is a true innovator. But I think I had to reconcile for myself that I'm not, and that is okay. Being an excellent craftsman or journeyman is fine if that's what you're interested in, and making a simple, powerful statement is much better than making migraine-inducing rainbow-vomit that seems to only exist to engage everyone's inner speed freak.

Clearly, I've wasted far too much of my young life focusing on what other people were doing, and not enough time focusing on making videos that I enjoy making. Lesson learned. Also, it's amazing how sometimes the most well received videos are so simple, with little to no effects. And I'm sitting here like:
What the hell am I doing wrong. -_-

Now off to finish the five Cowboy Bebop videos I've been sitting on for the last eight years.

I hear ya. I had similar issues until I started talking to more people here. It's so easy to feel intimidated, isn't it?

I always felt that those videos are incredibly gimmicky. Like, there's no point to them other than to say 'WOAH THAT WAS COOL.' I might be wrong, but that's how I feel with some exceptions to some videos.

They are cool to watch but in the long run I can totally see what you mean