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rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:02 pm

otohiko - pen-pen's got it right, i'd be more than happy to include some of your 'avant garde' work, whether it be "wasteland" or something new. after all, bach, beethovin, and debussy were all avant garde artists pushing the boundries of their genre in their time, so why cut off the tradition on the basis of names and dates?

the project page should be done this weekend. i've got a lot of things on my plate right now, but i certainly have no intention of just letting this slide or fester away.

i do plan (as i've said in an earlier post) to make a new thread with a clearer name once the project page is up.

xenodrake - the song's an original comp. - so it deserves a bit of fuss. i've tried my hand and songwriting as well, and know how much of a challenge it is to translade what you hear in your mind into what others hear through their headphones. besides, as i said before, it has a strong modern-instrumental structure that just needs a few touches on the stylistic side to make it a really listenable and memorable piece.

and, once again, just send me an e-mail if you want to know where the FTP is located. i'll be putting a few songs in there this evening, and anyone with a related past project or work in progress should go ahead and dump it in my "inbox" folder so we can really get under way with deciding what's going into this and what source footage should be reserved for which segments and so forth.

if anyone has any ideas on how to best enable a line of communication for giving pre-release opinions and settling any compromises that might arise, please share. right now the only idea i have is do that in the forum, or to try to set up some aim discourse, each of which have their advantages and disadvantages.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:57 pm

Alright, I'll send an email shortly... the ability to use FTP transfers is pretty much essential for a multi-user project.

For communication - well, the forums are generally optimal for me, but seeing how a lot of you are AIM users - I might just end up registring that (even if I don't really like it). That's probably the easiest way for quick communication.

So, I'll wait for that page, but if there's a track or segment you want me to do sometime - I'll join in.

As for The Wasteland - I 'killed' that video the other day - as in, dispensed with the source files after tweaking out a few of the effects and maximising visual quality. But probably the most I'll do about it now is request a delete and re-upload a slightly larger version to the .org eventually...

I've been working on a couple of 'vocal' projects in the last few days, but there's never a bad time for me to do something instrumental again

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:06 pm

Ok guys, I think I may be in luck but I need some advice. I got my hands on a borrowed copy of "memories" three short movies (114 minutes total) from Katsuhiro Otomo (creator of Akira.) For a while it looks like may prayers were answered as the first one was perfect for an instrumental vid with lots of chandeliers and ballroom type settings. It was about an imaginary world created by an turn of the century opera singer. some pictures can be seen here.

My plan was to do a three part vid with each of the three videos but the second one was a comedy piece that I did not enjoy as much. The third piece was again awesome about a city absolutely bristling with cannons forever firing at an unknown enemy. The cannons are the only reason for the cities existence.

So now I really only have two which won't work as well since the rhythm is a three beat pattern and I was going to sync something to that (I already have a plan for the effects/layout of the video even though I didn't have a piece.) The other option is to use only the first short which is 45 minutes long. Is this long enough? Do you think I could make a 3-5 min video off it? One way or another I think I have my source. Here is more detailed discriptions.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:40 pm

i can see it. you should be fine making a 3-5 min video from 45 minutes of source, so long as the source isn't terribly repetitive and you can map out the video in advance without any big holes. the third sounds like it could be kinda interesting, from the description, if you really worked with the music (like a less cartoony version of "steamboat willie"). i don't know about the second, but comedy definately is a possibility for an instrumental video (like the "Caffene Encopium" video), so you could probably pull it off if you find a piece with enough energy or strong enough a contrast with the action on screen.

for an example of contrast, i just (as in within the last hour) saw a video on 9 songs that should never be done with Grave of the Fireflies, done to Grave of the Fireflies. i don't know the name, as it was shown by my anime club, but if i find it i'll tell you. in any case, contrast can make even a deathly serious anime or song funny, if what it is paired with is in direct opposition.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:28 pm

again - the ftp server is up. it will usually go down on friday mornings, but come back up in the afternoon (it's a laptop, and i need it for my compsci lab on friday).

anyone who doesn't have the address should mail me. anyone who does should feel free to browse the sample songs i've put up (just some one's i pulled from my collection as possibilities/ideas, not necessarly classical but all instrumental in nature and very different from top40 clear-channel radio music). i am keeping a list in that folder of songs and people who plan to use them.

if you have an idea for the use of a specific song, please drop a text note in the "inbox" folder declaring what the song is and diving some vague idea of what you plan to do with it (anime, possible scenes, general concept - whatever you have).

if you have made part or all of a video that could be used in this project, you can also put that in the inbox, prefereably with a bit of description of who put it there, what stage of development it is in, and whether you are looking for help or advice on it.

if you have hard-to-find source that someone wants to use, you can contact me (through e-mail, preferably) to tell me what it is and how much space it will fill. i'll then get back to you on whether i can/will set room aside for it on my hard drive (if not, i'll try to find and point out a torrent or something that can be used - i don't have room for several entire series beyond what i already have in storage).

i am writing the web page tonight, and it should be posted by tomorrow afternoon. when it is i will also start a new thread with the subject "Anime Instrumental Project" for news and questions concerning the project.

i've started work on the one's i've decided to do, and will put up results as they come together. the sooner we have even the alpha and beta versions of your segments, the sooner we can start evaluating what remains to be added and how it should be arranged. the mood of each video will be critical to the order in which they are placed, and it might be a good idea to check as early as possible who's using which scenes (and how they are being used) to avoid gross repetition of the same clips.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:49 pm

Great! I was wondering about the server. Do you mind if I send a few pieces to the inbox myself? I think I got a few music pieces that could work for inspiration, even if not for videos or anything...

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:58 am

sure. audio files are no problem whatsoever. my only concern was that my personal computer not turn into a filesharing network for 26-episode series or anything of that nature. it'd also be nice to see if someone outside my school network can successfully upload, as it seems that no one has yet tried.

XenoDrake · Post by **XenoDrake** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:12 am

i can provide a direct .wav export of my song for the final encode if you want.

~XenoDrake

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:19 am

.wav is good. the final comp should just be a matter of appending files end to end with transition bits between each one explaining what each one is. it does look, though, like we might have to make more than one file to work around the 100MB restriction for local downloads. a 20-min 100MB file looks good, but i doubt that a 60-min 100MB file would be terribly pretty.

the real trick, though, is that the audio track must be exactly the same length as the video track to prevent syncing issues when the appends are done, so it'd be best if you left the audio (in either .wav or high-bitrate .mp3 encoding) in the .avi file rather than sending it separately.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:02 am

GUIDELINES PAGE UP:

Click on the little "WWW" button at the bottom of this post and follow the links "Anime Resources" and "Anime Music Videos" to get to the guidelines.

NEW THREAD:

I am now starting a new thread for all future discussion of this project. It's name is "Instrumental Anime Project", and it is going to be the place to go to suggest songs/anime, to anounce your plans before anyone starts doing the same thing, and to ask questions or converse of topics with some distant relationship to the project at hand.