A newbie's thought's on anime music videos in general

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:51 am

Oooh that. Sorry I had missed it. Heh, how can anything be shown from cibo's point of view, she dies every two chapters or is transformed into an archvillain or reenters the story from another dimension.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:51 am

its VERY Short

bloodyfang · Post by **bloodyfang** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:55 am

arzuro wrote:Wait a second... when you call Blame a series, are you saying it's been animated?

It's a very short anime. Someting like 37 minutes, almost half of which they take up with titles.

I bought it and am(hopefully) making a 2 minute amv to it but I'm planning on reading all the manga first and a friend is currently messing around with the song for me.

It's going to be in the same vein as this video http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=36554

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:05 am

Hey, great song. Just finished watching the Jin'Ro one, makes me wish I had seen the anime. Really good stuff. Same goes for the Blame version, although I'm not so sure I want to see the anime in that case. My god, the colours. Although some frames look awesome if you freeze them. Oh well.

By the way, since I've still got the noob flag on me, I guess it would be relatively safe to bring up another issue which will no doubt generate some heat in here. Why is it that AMV's with original video are inferior to AMV's with stolen video, or not even regarded AMV's at all. At least that's who it seems to be (I did some reading around here):

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:05 am

Try reading this.

It might give you some idea of what you've gotten into. (ZOMG SHAMELESS)

Anyway, yes, you do need to throw out all your old ideas about the music video form. The reason is simple: the MTV-type videos are created for economic reasons, and any artistic achievement is largely incidental. Here, there is no economic reason (no gain, certainly, and some of us sink quite abit of money into this), but there is a strong creative reason.

Music videos aren't supposed to match the music, at least not as closely as most anime music videos do.

I'm sorry. You're a victim of MTV. You've been subject to those horrible excuses for music videos. In those, the link between audio and video is purely temporal. That is, they're only linked because they happen to appear at the same time.

We reject that idea, in case you haven't noticed.

Also, you might want to tone down the rhetoric a bit. I don't want to have to lock this thread for turning into a flamewar.

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:06 am

All animals are special. But some animals are more special.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:12 am

arzuro wrote:All animals are special. But some animals are more special.

How, exactly, is an Orwell reference relevant to anything here?

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:15 am

Kalium I'm afraid you're wrong about the MTV thing, I get my ideas about music videos from my small collection of NIN music videos.

Thanks a lot for the link, it answered quite a few questions. I'm sorry if my choice of words seems harsh, I honestly am. I be as friendly to people as they are to me, although I do admit that I am a pessimist and things I say usually have more of a negative twist to them than intended - this is because I am a horrible mountain person.

We have two sayings here

Wie man in den Wald hineinruft so schallt es heraus.

Means: The way you shout into a forest, it will reply to you (very clumsy translation)

and, if you want to be theatrical

Wer Wind säht wird Sturm ernten

Means: He who sows wind shall harvest storm.

Cheers, Zai

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:16 am

It's relevant to the shannanigans of the purple one.

bloodyfang · Post by **bloodyfang** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:22 am

arzuro wrote:Hey, great song. Just finished watching the Jin'Ro one, makes me wish I had seen the anime. Really good stuff. Same goes for the Blame version, although I'm not so sure I want to see the anime in that case. My god, the colours. Although some frames look awesome if you freeze them. Oh well.

By the way, since I've still got the noob flag on me, I guess it would be relatively safe to bring up another issue which will no doubt generate some heat in here. Why is it that AMV's with original video are inferior to AMV's with stolen video, or not even regarded AMV's at all. At least that's who it seems to be (I did some reading around here):

when you say original, do you mean drawn and animated by the creator? Or do you mean taking video from someone else's AMV and then using it yourself.

For the first, I'd partially attribute it to the fact many of the faceless thousands are fanboys that like flashy crowd pleasing videos. I haven't seen many original animation videos, but there are some very good ones

As for taking footage from someone else's amv, it is looked down upon partially because it seems a little lazy. Some people put alot of effort into processing their footage and doing their effects. Loooked down upon because some have most likely seen it and they aren't impressed by taking someone else's effect.

Personally, I don't see the point in taking from other people's stuff. You have much more control and options if you rip the footage yourself. If you do the effect from scratch, you control all aspects of it.