AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

[Sephiroth]

I don't put that much effort into what other creators think, because the creators aren't the audience as much as the audience isn't the creator. The sooner you learn the difference and how unimportant this all is the sooner you'll be happier.

As for editing i edit along a theme and allways to do that which hasn't been done either by the community or by myself. I'm completly orthadox about being un-orthadox. And sane about my insanity, living in death and dieing to live. I'm heated up but childed out. Working the hardest at doing things the easiest.

Stamped, clicked, upped, lowered, hightened, rounded, reaching, and calm.

Making enough nonsense for you fine people. i can try to make it more sense but then it won't make any more sense.

With editing, the best thing to do is play with em. Be it word's, video clips, or just plain old jokes.

[godix]

I suppose I should point out my entire know art theory thing is only for people interested in more detailed aspects of the hobby. If you're happy slapping around naruto clips to the latest ansgty rock song, well, be happy doing it. The results will suck but whatever, it is just a hobby. But someone who was happy doing that probably wouldn't have started a thread on editing styles and if you've hit that point of interest, that's when it's really helpful to learn what the fuck you're talking about.

[dreamawake]

my goodness o:

in the time you spent spewing that bullshit you could've learned the fundamentals of continuity editing or read about montage theory. maybe understanding a tiny bit about editing for emphasis, or knowing a few techniques for hiding your cuts such as eyeline matches, matching on action, cutting by association or cross cutting scenes would you know... make your videos suck less?

or you could just assume that posessing knowledge of such things makes you a follower, and lead us all into a glorious new dark age.

stop bitching and making excuses for yourself and embrace the fact that you HAVE TO LEARN STUFF TO GET BETTER AT THINGS

This.

[outlawed]

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[Ikore]

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[Castor Troy]

Most editing rules are trying to aim the editor towards naturalness.

The accomplished editor Walter Murch says,

The grounding of film must be very deep in some common human perception which I think must be the language of dreams. The way human beings use images in dreams is very similar from culture to culture. The content might be different, but the transitions that happen in dreams are very similar.

Editing rules can be ignored for good reasons, but they're useful guides when there is no reason to ignore them. Now, if you're editing a music video, your reasons probably come from the music.

Walter Murch is awesome.

[Bauzi]

There is just two types of editing:

For your aimed audience and not for your aimed audience.

If you make a synctarted, strobflashlight, crappy effects video for a TV documentation about cheese than you fail hard.


Advice:
Don't give a shit about other peoples advices if you don't like them. I think you came to a good level to have a good own editing style. Remeber: Effects can always be better and scene selection and stuff. That's far easier to critic in an objectiv way than your level of editing. The critisimn to your editing will be most of the time subjective unless you do something really wrong and awefull...

So it comes down how much percentage of the org editors you can please with your style. You can't please everyone and yes it is hard to get known and to make something epic.

I can't remeber for 100% about my former advices to you. However you know that I'm hard to please.


I think this quote comes from Beo:

It feels like amv editors found a certain formula to edit popular amvs. Now they use it to death.

Something like that...


Reminds me that I should start my editing experimental video.
I just want to create something that is: "fucking in your face and I hope you get eye and ear cancer because it's not bad, but a hell different from what you're used to."

I just don't feel that all that fancy editing isn't really necessary to make a video enjoyable or otherwise.

I suggest to watch some old good videos. From the early 2000. They're fairly differently edited than nowadays and still look great. Especially some comedy videos out there.



I know what you mean. We're surpressed by stupid expectations and guidelines like syncing bullshit (syncing isn't bad, but people often seam to blindly follow stupid beats). However... There are basiscs and everybody has to know them to make something good (well most of the time).

As I somehow said: At your level most of the critic you get will be subjectiv and not about basics anymore.

Somewhere along the lines I think you forgot this is really just a hobby. People don't have to like it, as long as you enjoy what you do, why let any one else stop you? If what you fear is rejection or criticism, then this is certainly not the right place for you. If anything you'd be better off showing your video to friends and family, perhaps they'll learn to sugar coat it.

I think it's more about people who don't apprecite different editing styles that might not adopt to certain editing trends wich are above basic editing rules.

damn dude, no one here is telling you to conform to anything.

Sorry dude, but the org really feels like it. About conforming an editing style from different groups (effects-, riot gear whores, syntards, no effects, cheesy effects, anti lip sync, beat sync, external sync, inner sync...)

[Chez]

Term Paper Tim smith Phd
Sergei Eisenstein
both of these can really explain different ways to edit, the montage theory to me is a well documented simpler way to edit, whiles the invisible edits become harder but more widely used in today's editing world. As for Orthodox or Unorthodox it comes down to how much you enjoy it if others like it then its just bonus.

[Beowulf]

I'm inclined to write a book for a post in this thread, but instead I'll just post something I haven't heard yet.

The audience has to know you can follow the rules that you're breaking.

This has a lot to do with fame/familiarity, but its absolutely true. If I download a random video with no beat hits, I immediately assume the creator doesn't know how to edit that well, and my reaction/expectation is adjusted (read: This shit sucks). If I download a video by Fluxmeister, a slow, methodical, weird video, I give the video the benefit of the artistic doubt because I KNOW that Flux knows exactly what he's doing.

You have to be able to speak the language before you start making up words. If you are going to edit in an esoteric, or unorthodox way, I NEED to know that you are capable of editing in the classic sense, otherwise I'll probably think you don't know wtf you're doing. This is true because so often, the line between "pushing the artistic envelope" and "jerking off to yourself in the mirror" is so small.

My newest video is the slowest, most deliberate, most painfully strait forward thing I've ever done. It was very well received, and part of that is because people KNOW that I can hit beats on snare drums. If some random kid had come out with that video, you can bet it wouldn't have gone over nearly as well, with most of the feedback being "boring" and "too slow" if it even got feedback at all. When I do it, its "classic old school editing" and "doing videos for yourself". Thats just the nature of public perception. Presentation has a lot to do with things as well, but thats a whole different thread.

[Fall_Child42]

I've had it up to here with your RULES.

When do I get my FREEKIN' Guns?