School House Rock

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 11:05 pm

mexicanjunior wrote:Nah, I have the DVD source I need. ^_^ That paragraph of technical stuff just flew over my head though.

No, I was talking about the audio source, not the video source.

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:24 am

Okok, I got the program done and up

For those starting early (before ashton has the dvd source for the songs):

http://digitalinsanity.ath.cx/~tab/SHR_ ... verter.zip

Ed's simple guide to using this converter:

Open mp3 of song downloaded from kazaa
Save wav file somewhere
Hit convert

If you get an error message when trying to start the program its because you dont have Visual Basic installed on your system. In such a case you'll want to download the dll here:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... n60sp5.exe

Note: this is not some random every day converter, I made it specifically for converting mp3s to wave and resampling from 23.976 to 24fps. Its really just a GUI for those two functions of BeSweet. Its there so that you guys can start working awhile but dont have to worry about the audio source. Load the mp3, convert, and edit with the resulting wav.

As for the video source. As I said, projects have to be submitted as 720x480 24fps. So really all you'll need in your avisynth scripts are:

mpeg2source("D:\project.d2v")
Telecide()
Decimate(mode=5)
assumefps(24)

No resizing.
And thats about it for now. Good luck those starting early but remember you dont have to :\
and if you plan to edit parts out of your song you'll have to wait until we have the source songs in a few weeks.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:47 am

I guess I'll give this project a try -- the worst thing that could happen is that my section is eclipsed by the greatness of everyone else working on the thing.

I can't really promise a delivery date: schoolwork comes first. I guess it's a good thing you don't really have a specific date in mind

What format do you want the final product in? I usually export in some YUV derivative in a QuickTime file for further processing. I'm assuming, however, that you guys (understandably) do not want to deal with multi-gigabyte non-AVI files.

Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I've never done a group project before, nor am I using the same editing platform as others in this project...

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:02 am

I still have to set a definite final submission format, but I'm thinking either XviD avi encoded at Quant 1 or Quant 2 if 1 is too big (have to double check that)
Since some of the songs are 3 minutes long huffyuv is probably too much to ask :\

speaking of which the final product is DVD bound, which is why the stuff has to be submitted at 720x480 24fps (we'll convert it to 23.976 for the final DVD) and also why we decided to get the DVD audio source instead of CD (lossless transfer of audio. With the CDs we'd have had to upsample to 48khz and encode to ac3 or mp2). This way if people don't edit the song at all the original ac3 off the DVD can be used. If they do decide to edit the song we can either re-encode to ac3 or just put the uncompressed pcm on the disc (dvd supports pcm audio)

now that you're all confused I'm going to bed :p

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:07 am

RadicalEd0 wrote: This way if people don't edit the song at all the original ac3 off the DVD can be used. If they do decide to edit the song we can either re-encode to ac3 or just put the uncompressed pcm on the disc (dvd supports pcm audio)

Can we do multi-channel audio effects if we want, or do you want to keep this simple?

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:10 am

nah the dvd audio is 2.0 ac3 according to amazon.com

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 2:23 am

RadicalEd0 wrote:nah the dvd audio is 2.0 ac3 according to amazon.com

Error: 401
Eds answer is wrong.

Truth is, it has 5.1 surround sound aswell. Thank you for playing.

Sidicas · Post by **Sidicas** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:29 am

RadicalEd0 wrote:http://digitalinsanity.ath.cx/~tab/SHR_ ... verter.zip

Link no work!

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:42 am

Sidicas wrote:
RadicalEd0 wrote:http://digitalinsanity.ath.cx/~tab/SHR_ ... verter.zip
Link no work!

Aw, for crying out loud... Ed.. what are you doing? Ill take care of this in the morning.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 5:27 am

Grrr... I just found a new problem with using the DVD audio. It seems that along with the songs on the DVD audio tracks, they also have the sounds from the cartoon. So I put this to your vote, do you think you would like to use existing cartoon noise like a trailer, or would you rather use clean songs?