AMVs and Funimation's Copyright enforcment comments

[Scintilla]

The sad thing is that FLCL is still that expensive.

According to Amazon at least.

Even after all those new box set versions? Well, I guess that just shows that Synch-Point (/Broccoli Brooks) understands how to keep supply just low enough.

[outlawed]

The sad thing is that FLCL is still that expensive.

According to Amazon at least.

Even after all those new box set versions? Well, I guess that just shows that Synch-Point (/Broccoli Brooks) understands how to keep supply just low enough.

FLCL is OOP. Synch point is probably completely shut down as Broccoli pretty much exited direct involvement in the USA market with the shutdown of their books label.

[Pinkjacketaddict]

I'm not exactly sure if this post counts as bumping a thread, but I feel very strongly about this topic and I would like to be heard, if I may.

Unfortunately, it's not only music companies that make the web unsafe for AMVs. TMS Entertainment, the distributor and owner of Lupin the 3rd, everything from the 1970s TV series to the 2009 Lupin vs. Detective Conan special, has become increasingly zealous in enforcing copyright in regards to AMVs. This has already happened several times on YouTube, and it was actually out of that fear that I sought out animemusicvideos.org. It's one thing if a video gets muted. You either swallow your pride, dispute the claim, and ingratiate yourself to the victorious owner of the music, and maybe, the music will be restored, you sacrifice your brainchild by switching the music for approved music, or you pack up and head elsewhere, hoping that the next video hosting site won't have Content ID, which automatically matches the music in the video to those in their database, kind of like a musical fingerprint. X_X However, once the owner of the footage enforces copyright, your only option is to move. TMS has had YouTube remove several popular Lupin the 3rd AMVs. I don't mean to be alarmist: this might have implications for the wider anime AMV-creating community. However, the removal of Lupin AMVs are proof that it's no longer just the music companies that are a factor in enforcing copyright, but the anime companies are taking action. If only the favorable statement of Funimation concerning the relaxed creative atmosphere in Japan concerning fanworks were still true. In fact, it seems that the Japanese Lupin AMVs were the first ones to be hit.

[guardiansoulblade]

TMS and Sqare Enix are both starting to remove AMVs, but the irony is, Square has yet to take down fansubbed Advent Children from UTube.

[Side Swipe]

At the end of the day as I see it... As far as AMV's go we own next to nothing... that is to say we Technically do own the edits... that being the theoretical space in-between the footage we use... the rest generally falls under fair use/parody and is therefor LEGAL to use... as for the audio... there is a legal grey area known as sampling where you are changing the actual musical performance to where it is technically no longer the original artists work... it can be creatively done to the point that unless you are intimately familiar with the original piece you would miss it however it still gives you some room to squirm as far as legality goes.... however if I'm not mistaken in doing so you need to change the name of the "edited work" so that it doesn't reflect the original composition... if you edit my heart will go on and rename it the "Titanic sized love theme".... well it's more of a grey area than if you call it "my heart will go on-xyz studio edit"...

that's at least my understanding of it anyway...and I'm fairly certain most of the info is accurate....

[Moonlight Soldier]

Has anyone ever figured out why ANN doesn't like AMVs?
Honestly what's their deal?

[outlawed]

Has anyone ever figured out why ANN doesn't like AMVs?
Honestly what's their deal?

I don't actively read ANN's articles that much. Can you clarify?

ANN definitely has changed over the years in terms of what stuff is posted or what they cover.
Example: the WAY IT WAS
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convent ... central/17
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/19 ... ber-update

[guardiansoulblade]

Aniplex is starting to remove Fullmetal Alchemist videos, but I think it's a kneejerk response to the One Piece inciddent but they don't know about this place so we're safe.

[Dark Lord of Debate]

Interesting discussion here. While the guy in the article may not have been writing a legal brief, I decided one couldn't hurt. I'll be starting law school this year and have been studying copyright stuff forever, so I decided to write a blog post about AMVs and copyright. I already posted another thread about this, but I figured I might as well link to the original blog post here as well since this seems to be the official AMVs and copyright thread.

Here is my case for AMVs being fair use. Maybe that will come in handy for anybody trying to fight takedown notices or whatnot.

[Kalium]

Has anyone ever figured out why ANN doesn't like AMVs?
Honestly what's their deal?

I don't actively read ANN's articles that much. Can you clarify?

Over time, their AMV coverage has basically vanished and they have a strongly negative tone anytime the subject comes up.

I dunno. Maybe an AMV ran over their dog? Maybe they feel compelled to suck up to the American anime company this way or something.