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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Knowname » Mon May 18, 2009 10:47 pm

I just do what I learned to do in art/ music (or even literature) class... that's probly why I have NO technical skill lol. All of my editing techniques are based on emotions and junk.
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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Knowname » Tue May 19, 2009 7:20 am

oh one thing I like to do that's very 'unorthadox' (actually I think it's logical but it just sounds weird) is when something fits TOO well I either unsynch it or toss the scene all together. I used to go all gaga over internal sync, but now I just think it's passe'.
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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Tue May 19, 2009 10:31 am

TwilightChrono wrote:Because nowadays you have to edit something just pure epic and awesome just to get any kind of praise on your video.
BS. I have read this a few places from other people as well. I have only made videos in the last like 4 years. I'm not exactly a well known editor here. The 3 I have made however actually get plenty of praise. Decent reviews, around a 3 start average for all of them.None of them are "epic". I picked an overused Anime on all 3. The video is ugly on the first 2 (because I didn't follow the guides and used WMM).

They still get positive notes from the people that see them. They aren't "their favorite videos EVAH!!!111!!1", they still are generally enjoyed by those who leave comments (quick and long).

The real reason you're saying that is deep down you want your videos to win awards on the ORG, be universally loved by all and maybe even win at a convention or two. That's the only reason you would suggest that 4 or 5 star review you get on your video isn't "praise".

I understand. Like anyone else, I like being liked. I would love my videos to be loved too. All I have to do is put the time, effort and knowledge into doing it, like the top editors on here do. THey put time and effort into learning more about their hobby. I don't really want to. I have a wife, 2 kids, work, a new home and an XBox 360 that take up most of my time. I use the guides to clean up my footage and then from there do it the way I want. Simple cuts, fade-ins, follow the beat and try and teall a bit of a story (generally).

My videos will continue to be seen by a few here and there and SOMEHOW I will get by in my life without being king of the ORG. You all can too. I swear.

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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Castor Troy » Tue May 19, 2009 10:47 am

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
TwilightChrono wrote:Because nowadays you have to edit something just pure epic and awesome just to get any kind of praise on your video.
BS. I have read this a few places from other people as well. I have only made videos in the last like 4 years. I'm not exactly a well known editor here. The 3 I have made however actually get plenty of praise. Decent reviews, around a 3 start average for all of them.None of them are "epic". I picked an overused Anime on all 3. The video is ugly on the first 2 (because I didn't follow the guides and used WMM).

They still get positive notes from the people that see them. They aren't "their favorite videos EVAH!!!111!!1", they still are generally enjoyed by those who leave comments (quick and long).

The real reason you're saying that is deep down you want your videos to win awards on the ORG, be universally loved by all and maybe even win at a convention or two. That's the only reason you would suggest that 4 or 5 star review you get on your video isn't "praise".

I understand. Like anyone else, I like being liked. I would love my videos to be loved too. All I have to do is put the time, effort and knowledge into doing it, like the top editors on here do. THey put time and effort into learning more about their hobby. I don't really want to. I have a wife, 2 kids, work, a new home and an XBox 360 that take up most of my time. I use the guides to clean up my footage and then from there do it the way I want. Simple cuts, fade-ins, follow the beat and try and teall a bit of a story (generally).

My videos will continue to be seen by a few here and there and SOMEHOW I will get by in my life without being king of the ORG. You all can too. I swear.
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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Tue May 19, 2009 10:57 am

Castor Troy wrote:
OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
TwilightChrono wrote:Because nowadays you have to edit something just pure epic and awesome just to get any kind of praise on your video.
BS. I have read this a few places from other people as well. I have only made videos in the last like 4 years. I'm not exactly a well known editor here. The 3 I have made however actually get plenty of praise. Decent reviews, around a 3 start average for all of them.None of them are "epic". I picked an overused Anime on all 3. The video is ugly on the first 2 (because I didn't follow the guides and used WMM).

They still get positive notes from the people that see them. They aren't "their favorite videos EVAH!!!111!!1", they still are generally enjoyed by those who leave comments (quick and long).

The real reason you're saying that is deep down you want your videos to win awards on the ORG, be universally loved by all and maybe even win at a convention or two. That's the only reason you would suggest that 4 or 5 star review you get on your video isn't "praise".

I understand. Like anyone else, I like being liked. I would love my videos to be loved too. All I have to do is put the time, effort and knowledge into doing it, like the top editors on here do. THey put time and effort into learning more about their hobby. I don't really want to. I have a wife, 2 kids, work, a new home and an XBox 360 that take up most of my time. I use the guides to clean up my footage and then from there do it the way I want. Simple cuts, fade-ins, follow the beat and try and teall a bit of a story (generally).

My videos will continue to be seen by a few here and there and SOMEHOW I will get by in my life without being king of the ORG. You all can too. I swear.
Yeah, the Xbox360 completely hinders amv progress. :P
:lol: It does mine.

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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by LittleAtari » Tue May 19, 2009 12:14 pm

TwilightChrono wrote: Almost all AMV's nowadays contain masking or photoshopping, and make it very hard for people who don't know how to do that, to get anywhere in a Con AMV Contest or otherwise.
I dont think you realize how many videos are out there that use little to no effects that do actually make it into conventions and get praised.
Kazemon's Switchback AMV for the most part only uses fades and a few cookie cutters. It was made in Adobe Premiere Elements, but it made it as a Finalist in ACen's Action category. If you've seen the list of competitors at ACen, you would know that the video went up against a bunch of other editors on the Org. Castor Troy's ACen entry (which hasnt been uploaded here yet) was edited completely old school, using just hard cuts. On top of that it was a DBZ video.

I use very little effects in my videos and I think that I've gotten a decent amount of attention. My White Houses AMV has the most downloads out of all my videos and for the most part it's just black flashes and fades.

I think you dont realize that using little to no effects is actually a style that a lot of editors follow. I dont use that many effects. Like most people, I'm not into a video for it's effects. I'm into a video for it's content and editing. Good editing is not based on effects usage, but doing whatever you can with your footage to get it to match up well with the music

One final example is the Org's VCAs has a "Best No-Effects" AMV category. Using no effects is special and people do appreciate it.
TwilgihtChrono wrote:As stated, you have to make something super epic and bad-ass to get anykind of good feedback from anyone here on the org. Well, something along those lines. Every video I have seen on the org is either critisized or flamed out of existence, which isn't the idea behind watching an AMV.
I dont believe that this is true, especially with the streaming feature in place, there are a lot of well known editors check out videos made by people that they probably have never heard of. Best example right now is this thread: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=94349.

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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Knowname » Tue May 19, 2009 2:26 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote: The real reason you're saying that is deep down you want your videos to win awards on the ORG, be universally loved by all and maybe even win at a convention or two. That's the only reason you would suggest that 4 or 5 star review you get on your video isn't "praise".

I understand. Like anyone else, I like being liked. I would love my videos to be loved too. All I have to do is put the time, effort and knowledge into doing it, like the top editors on here do. THey put time and effort into learning more about their hobby. I don't really want to. I have a wife, 2 kids, work, a new home and an XBox 360 that take up most of my time. I use the guides to clean up my footage and then from there do it the way I want. Simple cuts, fade-ins, follow the beat and try and teall a bit of a story (generally).

My videos will continue to be seen by a few here and there and SOMEHOW I will get by in my life without being king of the ORG. You all can too. I swear.
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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Bauzi » Tue May 19, 2009 4:35 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:
Yeah, the Xbox360 completely hinders amv progress. :P
:lol: It does mine.
Mine too... :sweat:
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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Adv1sor » Tue May 19, 2009 5:22 pm

In music, some people say, if you don't hold the instrument correctly, if you don't stand or sit with the proper posture, if you don't play each note and pause each pause exactly as they are written, then you are not doing it right.

I say, if it sounds good it is good.

Same for AMVs. If I can sit through the entire thing and feel entertained, moved, excited, etc., then you did it right, no matter how you did it.

Oh, I would be remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to say, if you don't at least consider editing the music, you're only doing half the job!

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Re: AMV's: Orthadox Editing Vs. Un-orthadox Editing

Post by Knowname » Wed May 20, 2009 11:50 am

I consider anything under 3 stars failure, 4 stars undeserved and 5 stars your shitting me.
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