AMVs brought up on ANN

[Kionon]

From the New York Times, Jan. 15, 2007.

One video posted last March, credited to Kusoyaro Productions, includes clips from the 20th Century Fox film "Napoleon Dynamite" that have been cleverly edited to create a new music video for Eminem’s song “Lose Yourself" from "8 Mile."

OH SHI, IZ THAT SOME HSIEN?

Oh and my main complaint is simply that the Answerman's conclusion show him to be an unskilled, and perhaps even unethical, journalist. As a reporter myself, that just pisses me off.

[Niotex]

According to answer man I'm nothing more but a uncreative pedophile... Someone hold me

maybe i should send you some of my 10 yearold fangirls? O.o that is unless they are too old for you? O.O


/me hides

Actually I like them a little older

[Knowname]

Half a second thought will pop up dozens of examples of this. Euphoria at first glance is nothing more than an effects video (yes yes, I know it is more than that but how many would catch that on first viewing?). Shounen Bushidou is a one trick pony as it The Race. Naruto's Technique Beat is nothing but mindless effects. Do It Right (Shake It!) is pretty much a gimmick vid. AMV hell is a gimmick. Toushi and Phenomenon are perfect examples of the how much honest-to-god creativity does it take question. In fact the entire hobby is devoted to distilling an entire anime series running main episodes into a 3 to 6 minute video. By it's very nature AMVs are prone to being gimmicks or rather obvious combinations of song and anime.

my God dude, everything is a gimmick... while it's true there are the gimmicky and the even MORE gimmicky, it's like originality, it IS originality -by org standards- really. If somebody didn't DO it, it WOULDN'T be unoriginal. For instance how could you say the first pairing of 'My way' and DBZ was unoriginal?? If somebody didn't make that first DBZ- Vegeta's way video the combination wouldn't be so unoriginal. Same thing for gimmicks. If there weren't so many of them, you wouldn't be complaining.

And what is there to complain about?? Everything from Hollywood movies to commercials to amvs are gimmiks. Again there are the good, bad and ugly in EVERYTHING but. I mean even YOU play off of the most OBVIOUS gimmik EVER.

You know all of those same complaints can be put to Movies T.V. Music. and just about anything else produced for mass consumption.

Give me 5 minutes and I could find a rant about how TV is mindless pap, how rap is nothing but bitches and hos and gangsters, how hollywood produces total crap, etc. And for the most part those rants would be right. Just because AMVs aren't the only thing that don't often show creativity doesn't change the fact that they don't.

emo emo emo, just stop. Your doing nothing but complaining.

[Moonlight Soldier]

OH SHI, IZ THAT SOME HSIEN?

<s>Oh and my main complaint is simply that the Answerman's conclusion show him to be an unskilled,</s> and perhaps even unethical, journalist. As a reporter myself, that just pisses me off.

Yea, that's what prompted my response. Granted, I googled his name and all I found were anime reviews/advertorials...but that's no excuse. He's read by a lot of people, he should realize he has to be responsible.

[Kionon]

emo emo emo, just stop. Your doing nothing but complaining.

Someone doesn't know godix very well. That makes me giggle.

[downwithpants]

"we make amvs for ourselves."

[OzzieAlThor79]

emo emo emo, just stop. Your doing nothing but complaining.

Someone doesn't know godix very well. That makes me giggle.

^^True Story

[Shazzy]

To grossly generalize, there are two kinds of people: synthesizers and creatives.

Synthesizers take the information that's given them and refine it until it looks a little bit new. 99% of the stuff produced by "good" synthesizers works structurally but it's aesthetically same old same old. Creatives are the ones who pull ideas out of nowhere. 99% of those ideas are utterly original and utterly crap. 1% of those ideas are original AND amazing.

If you think there's a a lot more synthesis than originality, you're right. Randomly thinking of brand-new things that have little relation to everything you've learned from other people is not a "successful" trait. It's an unproductive use of brainpower (random impulses vs. methodical reasoning). People generally aren't inclined to reinvent the wheel. Creativity asks you to recreate the wheel as a hexagon. The problem with that? I bet most of our hexagon people are a) not a significant portion of the population to begin with and b) less likely to have good jobs that pay for this rather expensive hobby and allow them to inundate us with their original works.

[Kitsuner]

I bet most of our hexagon people are a) not a significant portion of the population to begin with and b) less likely to have good jobs that pay for this rather expensive hobby and allow them to inundate us with their original works.

I doubt the HIV helps much either.

[Otohiko]

I don't understand where the expectation of creative originality in AMVs comes from. Not to say it doesn't exist, but I think it's fair to say that AMVing as a hobby and community is not here for its sake in general. It's by and large populated by anime fans who want anime videos.

I don't see what's wrong with it, either. In fact I wish people would stop trying to reinvent the wheel as a means for itself. It's nice to reinvent, but unless you're in it for the process, you probably shouldn't do it.

Likewise, I sneer at people who equate art and merit with technical skill, visual complexity of the result and effort. Which is why I enthusiastically (and genuinely) welcome so many AMVs and editors who, in a way that's acknowledged or otherwise, pursue pure & idiotic dadaism that chips at the logs of the unneccesary, unhealthy pretension stuck in the eyes of our 'artists' and 'technocrats'.