Recruiting from The Tube

[Zarxrax]

I don't understand the paranoia of people worried about others "stealing their footage"... maybe I just got over it in 2005 or something, but really is it THAT big of a deal? its like the pot calling the kettle black O.o

Someone on the tube not only stole my vids, but also stole my USERNAME.


But I don't care, cause I'm cool like that

[JaddziaDax]

I don't understand the paranoia of people worried about others "stealing their footage"... maybe I just got over it in 2005 or something, but really is it THAT big of a deal? its like the pot calling the kettle black O.o

One jackass stole my Naruto Ball Z video, removed the credits, and has 11 million hits for it on the tube.

There's not much I can do about it and it used to not piss me off, but I can't help but feel pissed at that.

I said stealing footage, not stealing awesome effects and not stealing whole amvs

[Chaobunny12]

Well stealing edited footage is what I meant. o_O I'm always paranoid about people stealing my stuff, which is why I'm reluctant to allow downloads.

[JaddziaDax]

meh this is an argument for another time, and beating the dead horse is pointless... Thing is people can "steal" from youtube as well so really if you don't want people to steal your edits, don't share either

[8bit_samurai]

I seen a couple AMVs where in the video description it says "please don't use my AMV as footage" or something along those lines, and I seen a couple AMVs that may be the reason the person said it. I can't be for sure, but it does look kinda, maybe just a lil, suspicious. On a coincidental note, I seen AMVs that break other Org taboos (here on the Org) and it's very noticeable that they do, or in other words they're pretty bad (looking). Yet those videos have pretty high star ratings, 3.70 or higher. I say to myself, it must be the concept, but it's certainly not the execution, and so I watch it as far as I can and just give em a 2. This is why I don't use Super Search as much as I used to, but I still use it whenever certain songs come to mind.

[godix]

Maybe this isn't such a good idea

[guardiansoulblade]

The thing about the Tube, is that for AMVs, there are no rules, you can use fansubs, bittorrent downloads, DVD rips, whatever, at least here you have to use video footage that you get yourself, no torrents, illegal stuff and all, and a lot of Tubers are just too lazy to go buy stuff. And I do understand it when people are angry that their footage gets stolen and used on the Tube, that's why I stuck a big fat watermark on mine, for my next vid I might put it in the middle of the video, very transparent, of course.

[Nya-chan Production]

(...) Yet those videos have pretty high star ratings, 3.70 or higher. I say to myself, it must be the concept, but it's certainly not the execution, and so I watch it as far as I can and just give em a 2. (...)

Put together a bunch of action scenes from famous anime, and you are guaranteed to please "series-fags", which (because it's famous anime > gets lots of DLs) gets you high score (or view count on YT) - that's why most of these makers do it, IMO, to get lots of views/DLs.
That's why I rather use less known anime.

The thing about the Tube, is that for AMVs, there are no rules, you can use fansubs, bittorrent downloads, DVD rips, whatever, at least here you have to use video footage that you get yourself, no torrents, illegal stuff and all, and a lot of Tubers are just too lazy to go buy stuff. And I do understand it when people are angry that their footage gets stolen and used on the Tube, that's why I stuck a big fat watermark on mine, for my next vid I might put it in the middle of the video, very transparent, of course.

First - how do you recognize if the footage is illegal? There are presently HDTV RAWs on torrents, which, needless to say, have sometimes better quality than DVD rips. In fact, almost all of my creation (for example) is gotten from torrents (I am not afraid to say it) - though mainly because I can't wait three months for DVDs ordered from US or Japan and "then" start editing, getting a RAW episode which I need in 720p from torrent takes a day or two max (for most recent series).

Second - The moment I'd put watermark on my vid, someone kick me and tell me to GTFO the AMVs, please. I think it's sad, but I'd rather have million Tube editors to steal my vid footage and deal with it, than degrade my AMVs with watermarks and stuff.
It's only personal opinion, though :<

[JaddziaDax]

Second - The moment I'd put watermark on my vid, someone kick me and tell me to GTFO the AMVs, please. I think it's sad, but I'd rather have million Tube editors to steal my vid footage and deal with it, than degrade my AMVs with watermarks and stuff.
It's only personal opinion, though :<

I kinda feel the same way...
though when I do recognize my footage in a Frankenstein AMV, I usually indirectly poke fun at the editor for it Though one time I had someone credit me for it O:

[dazza1008]

Reading the replies, I think there's a couple of issues here... (btw I came from the Tube when my vid got deleted, and someone PM'd me the link to this site as an alternative)

First is for tubers to migrate here (i.e. create accounts) in order to increase the likelihood they will donate as well, to keep the site alive. I've been advertising the site by linking to the download on the org for each vid I upload there, plus some people have reposted mine and linked to the download here. More advertising, cool. (btw I'd become a donator here because the site has been good to me, plus thought that Phade was an honest guy)

Second, I don't think the (stereotypical) tubers use the forum. Completely separate issue. The forum-users are a minority. When people link here from the Tube, generally they haven't used the forum. (although I feel for the newbie who wanders along and posts "my first AMV!!!1! ^-^", then gets torn a new one because they hadn't checked out the standard.)

Which brings me to a side note - it's a huge contrast to have comments "OMG! I love ittttttt!!!!! Wins 10000 internets!" (on the Tube) to "the whole thing sucked. 0/5" here (which is not specific, and generally unhelpful). In a nutshell - if only a small proportion of people donate compared to the number of users, then to increase likelihood of donations, we'd need to increase the number of users.

And it's a real shame if people are repelled by the tone of the feedback in the forums - because even though I was shocked by it at first, I have found the feedback to be helpful (from the one time I'd used AMV review plus really valuable technical help here)

So yeah, anyone who gives a negative non-specific review to an person who isn't acclimatised (i.e. a n00b), is destroying the potential of the site. (and if you don't care, that's irrelevant - the fact still stands that it's happening) Because I would like to see this site flourish as well as editors getting a step-up.