Why do people only notice the BAD points of your video?

[d00kiemastah]

huh, fancy that. There's a fancy word for that, AD, it's called making straw men.

That's three words.






Don't mind me....errr...*snicker*

[Arigatomina]

This is a very poor rebuttal.

All I did was react to how you disregarded the creator's video purely because he stated that it took him 8 days to make. It was narrow-minded and childish.

Actually what you did was read the first 2 lines of my post and then you just jumped the gun without even reading the rest.

The reply: assumption

The rest of your thread you did on your own. I'll think you'll find that it is you who are overly defensive of people attacking your statements.

You confuse being overly defensive with getting vexed at inherent stupidity that won't take the time to THINK and READ the whole post BEFORE replying. YOU did not read my original post very well AD, had you actually done so, you probably would not have replied at all in regards to it. You just read the first couple lines and suddenly yer subconsious screamed, "OOOooo, ARGUMENT!"

The entire reply: assumption and slander

I do find it incredibly ironic, however, that amidst a thread entitled "Why do people only notice the BAD points of your video?" you reviewed a video and did exactly that. Every "good" point was qualified by a "maybe" or an "ok"

And I find it incredibly ironic that you replied in regards to my first post without actually reading or even attempting to understand all that stuff I wrote about how the WORK in and of itself was the TRUE REWARD.

The reply: assumption (the exact same assumption in the other replies, redundant much...)

I was laughing at the originator of the thread not because I thought his work was slop for not spending weeks on end working on it, fuck I didn't even LOOK at his AMV. I was making fun of him because he thought that star ratings and opinions were the reward in making AMVs, when in fact the true reward comes from creating the AMV in the first place. And the reason that people like me get so much more "rewards" out of it, is because we understand that fact and thus, we put in the maximum amount of effort and TIME that we can.

The reply: has absolutely nothing to do with the comment quoted - does not address anything AD said in his post

At least it answered the topic of the thread: people only notice the bad because they are too egocentric and self-centred to do anything but negatively criticise.

You can try and justify my opinion about your AMV any way you like, Deary, but it doesn't change the fact that just like the originator of this thread...you don't understand what the true rewards in AMV making are. You just don't get it. *shrugs* Quite frankly, I pity you.

The reply: avoiding the issue, does not address the point AD brought up about the irony and changes the subject again (back to that same topic in the earlier assumptions)

Conclusion: As a rebuttal, that post was useless. Try again.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

The reason most people here posted was because you mocked someone who didn't spend as much time as you did on a vid.

...only if "most people" here are suffering from ADD like AD (heh, now there's some irony). I was never actually truly mocking the person. I just found the irony of it all to be kinda funny. You do understand what a *snicker* is, don't you? No, it's not a candybar, at least not in this instance. The problem is that AD and various other took what I had said OUT OF CONTEXT and then started arguing against it, basically making straw men. So I figured, eh, what the hell, it's all gonna come back and collapse on them sooner of later in this thread, let's see if anyone has the intelligence to pick up on it...but, none of you did.

But you know...the discussion about how quality is determined by whether or not an artwork survives the test of time is a moot one now. Earlier you said, and I paraphrase "name me one art work that was made in a short amount of time and is now celebrated for having retained its quality." And someone gave forth Picasso and his quickly made but still acclaimed artwork as that one example. So, you've been given the counterproof you called for. Even that discussion has been closed.

*runs a few quick searches in Google*

I can't find any reference to any of Picasso's work only taking a weekend or less to complete. That's not to say the person who said that was pulling shit out of their ass, it's just I'm not so quick to just blindly believe someone without some definitive counter proof. Such as the specific piece of work in question. Or a specific document which says such. It's basic fact checking. Anyone who wants my sources for the things I've said, I'll be more than happy to share them.

[mexicanjunior]

The point I was making is that there is no single argument.... I'm interested in a highly complex debate made up of arguments within arguments that can change and adapt after every post. I am not linear, I do not think in terms of right and wrong, my postions, ideals, thoughts and opinions can change just easily as I can change my shirt.

It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma on the tail end of a puzzle. This thread is funny only for the fact that people keep replying to Hatter as if arguing with him will make him agree that he is wrong, no matter how many times you prove it. Once one of his insights is proven incorrect, he will "evolve", "adapt" and "change" it into something totally unrelated to try and bait you into forgetting it. Quite comical actually.

[AisuzuZwei]

What MJ said.. :O

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

It may have been out of context but that doesn't mean that you didn't BITE... HARD... and revealed that it was *exactly* what you were thinking with that comment.

You confuse yourself with the original author of this thread. You took what I said out of context, but rather than just point that out I decided to teach you a little lesson. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I was honest with you, especially when I made the opinion about your video. I gave you what you wished for, you just forgot that you should be careful in such endeavors. I knew that in the end it would all come collapsing in on you, so it was an easy decision to play along for awhile.

[Arigatomina]

It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma on the tail end of a puzzle. This thread is funny only for the fact that people keep replying to Hatter as if arguing with him will make him agree that he is wrong, no matter how many times you prove it. Once one of his insights is proven incorrect, he will "evolve", "adapt" and "change" it into something totally unrelated to try and bait you into forgetting it. Quite comical actually.

There's no point to it. But...it's so damn fun... ~_~

[Arigatomina]

I can't find any reference to any of Picasso's work only taking a weekend or less to complete. That's not to say the person who said that was pulling shit out of their ass, it's just I'm not so quick to just blindly believe someone without some definitive counter proof. Such as the specific piece of work in question. Or a specific document which says such. It's basic fact checking. Anyone who wants my sources for the things I've said, I'll be more than happy to share them.

It would help if I had textbook on me, but the reason Picasso works so well as an example is that most people are familiar with his history. Check any artbooks of his different periods (I recommend 1901 to 1904) and you'll see that he wasn't someone who did one piece a year. He had many many sketches done in a few minutes at a table, bare paintings tossed up in a few hours, all composing his collections. The 'greatness' wasn't how many strokes he put into each one, it was the end result. Even some of his sketches done in the middle of a crowded cafe are beautiful and reknowned today - no way those took years to make, but it doesn't seem to bother people.

[Jebadia]

man...I need to put more devotion in my drawing...
..aha..I need to start drawing on mattboard again!! I did some of my best shit on that.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

This is a very poor rebuttal.

Think so?

Actually what you did was read the first 2 lines of my post and then you just jumped the gun without even reading the rest.

The reply: assumption

It is not assumption, it is fact, AD has already admitted to taking what I said out of context.

You confuse being overly defensive with getting vexed at inherent stupidity that won't take the time to THINK and READ the whole post BEFORE replying. YOU did not read my original post very well AD, had you actually done so, you probably would not have replied at all in regards to it. You just read the first couple lines and suddenly yer subconsious screamed, "OOOooo, ARGUMENT!"

The entire reply: assumption and slander

It can't be assumption on my part, PAY ATTENTION. What AD said was assumption in regard to what they thought I was feeling "overly defensive", I merely replied with clarification that I was not "overly defensive", just "vexed at inherent stupidity". But I didn't stop there, no, I actually went into a DETAILED EXPLANATION that showed that either AD was lacking in intelligence or looking for an argument. I used pure logic to do so. If AD HAD read my whole post, they would not have replied in the manner in which they did unless A (stupidity) or B (argumentative). Now if you or anyone else would like to offer up some other alternatives that maybe I haven't considered regarding ADs actions, hey, I'm all eyes, but until then:

"Conclusion: As a rebuttal, that post was useless. Try again."

And I find it incredibly ironic that you replied in regards to my first post without actually reading or even attempting to understand all that stuff I wrote about how the WORK in and of itself was the TRUE REWARD.

The reply: assumption (the exact same assumption in the other replies, redundant much...)

It is an assumption that has a high probability of being true. The facts point to it as being likely. If AD had read the entire post, why was there no mention of the "rewards" of AMV making? That WAS the whole purpose of the post I made. Either AD is stupid and didn't read the whole thing, or AD was so quick to want to argue that they took what I said out of context. (the later of which has already been proven).

I was laughing at the originator of the thread not because I thought his work was slop for not spending weeks on end working on it, fuck I didn't even LOOK at his AMV. I was making fun of him because he thought that star ratings and opinions were the reward in making AMVs, when in fact the true reward comes from creating the AMV in the first place. And the reason that people like me get so much more "rewards" out of it, is because we understand that fact and thus, we put in the maximum amount of effort and TIME that we can.

The reply: has absolutely nothing to do with the comment quoted - does not address anything AD said in his post

It did not need to, as you just said, it was a comment, nothing more. Had it been in some form of a question or inquiry then what you're saying might have some relevance, but it does not. I simply replied to a comment with a comment of my own. AD pointed out the irony they saw and then I simply pointed out the irony of what AD was doing.

You can try and justify my opinion about your AMV any way you like, Deary, but it doesn't change the fact that just like the originator of this thread...you don't understand what the true rewards in AMV making are. You just don't get it. *shrugs* Quite frankly, I pity you.

The reply: avoiding the issue, does not address the point AD brought up about the irony and changes the subject again (back to that same topic in the earlier assumptions)

I didn't avoid the issue at all. AD was attempting to justify the opinion I gave her video by saying it was all about ego and being self-centered, in essence she was doing exactly what the original author of this thread was doing, whining about not getting "good scores" and how their "reward" was ruined by people who were being "mean and nasty". At this point though I'm tired of arguing against that stupidity, which is why I told AD that they can justify it any way the like, but that the bottom line is that star ratings and such are meaningless, they are NOT the rewards of AMV making.

And further, I find it funny how so many of you are going on about how *I'M* supposedly trying to change the subject and avoid this and that, when thus far NOT ONE of you have even ATTEMPTED to formulate a counter argument about what I originally said, that the true rewards of AMV making come from the time and effort you put into it in the first place.