Recruiting from The Tube

[dazza1008]

Standards apply equally to everyone - adapt or die - if you don't want constructive criticism keep it off the internet - etc. etc.

Yeah, but there are different types of "constructive criticism" from "the whole thing sucked" (general) to "didn't like the effects - they were too busy" (more specific) to "transitions at xxxx were too jerky, bad scene choice at xxxx" (extremely specific)
Basically, everyone can speak for themselves, but not the site, since there are many different types of people here.

That sums up my opinion. Being a now semi newbie to AMV making I'll admit the first responses I got to my AMV's were a major turn off. And I fell in the group of people thinking that the forum goers (and the org in general) really were some rather negative elitist jerks. Ones who couldn't come off the high horses for a moment to offer some constructive advice as to how I could improve.

Course after a few more attempts I did realize that said "jerks" at times have been helpful with the few questions I've had, are that way because they've seen and made a lot more AMV's then me so far, and I know the technical side of the last few vids is a LOT better then my first ones (lookie i'm even compressing the audio now!) That and if the last one got a laugh out of Jaddzia, I'll consider that a win

Exactly my experience. XD

Problem is there is a lot of flaming and not enough constuctive crit in my opinion.

With the "older org" members there was a discussion before - 'flaming' is technically attacking the person with no reference to the AMV, and 'constructive criticism' is technically mentioning points for improvements. Of course there's a grey area inbetween where people do BOTH. Thus lies the confusion with the unknowing general public.

I mean I'm a pretty stubborn guy and to be honest I kept up the AMV making after the first couple just to spite the people giving me insults on the org, and an equally stubborn knowing I could do better. Though i've chilled out since on that opinion, not the perfectionist streak though, specially not after witnessing the AWA 08 winners. That's my big driving force to do better now.

LOL!!! And yes - you do know the value of the site.
I actually posted a thread in the announcements forum "looking for high quality AMVs?" with a link to the shittiest crappiest AMV of mine to piss people off. XDD (the flames were actually deleted by the admins here before I got a closer look at them)

I can't help but wonder how many people get driven off from a fun as heck hobby, and this community by that inital wave of snark or newbie bashing. Or the treatment tubers get when they try to cross over.

Bingo.

Last time I checked too, isn't the org a place to list all AMV's? Not just the perfect ones?

Yes, but I'd make a distinction between the site and the forum - one could use the site quite happily without coming into contact with the forum at all.

I have a standard reply for boochsack links in the announcement forum... it's pretty polite and i copy/paste it from a notepad i keep on my desktop. O.o However a lot of the time threads are locked before i can get to them

^^ Copypasta plz? (and you mean locked because they asked it to be locked, or they didn't follow the rules, like entering into the catalogue)

[JaddziaDax]

i mean locked because they didn't announce it

It is against forum rules to announce uncatalogued videos here (and why you tube links are disabled) Please list your video here and don't be surprised when your thread is locked. Thank you.

[BasharOfTheAges]

But is it really so hard to take the extra five seconds to link the rules rather then flaming them?

Conversely, is it really that hard to lurk on a community and adhere to standards they set forth clearly in stickied topics - to follow basic concepts of net etiquette standard on forums for the past 20 years?

[8bit_samurai]

Can't we all *dramatic pause* just get along?

[Moonie]

Can't we all *dramatic pause* just get along?

Indeed
No need for any drama


The editors on this site and the editors on other sites are not different from each other.
We all have different skills and different techniques but whats important is that way are doing
this because we love this hobby and enjoy seeing anime we like put to music we like.
Well, that's the way I feel about it anyway
As long as people are having fun with what they are doing, whether from here or the tube, they are all cool in my book.
Moonie luvs all the editors!

Seriously If more people were like this guy, the world would be a better place
http://tinyurl.com/2zxk7c

Tis the season for giving so give a hug and stop the drama
or no presents for you!
BTW, I have connections with Santa so if you haven't told what you want for Christmas,
feel free to sit on my lap

[Kionon]

Can't we all *dramatic pause* just get along?

No.

Merry Christmas.

[godix]

Can't we all *dramatic pause* just get along?

Not unless we have lots of Ativan.

[animedays]

Well needless to say, if someone is serious about AMVs, they will probably stumble upon this site. The question will be are they open enough, mature enough, and self confident enough to be able to take an honest critique? Or a downright nasty crit? Most OPs aren't nasty, but they can rip you a new one for sure, and sometime leave more questions than answers.

I think overall the group here is fairly welcoming, and willing to assist, however...they are very straight forward in general. Sugar coating was for elementary school around here. I think the overall disgust of the tube is for the general tube population, and it's stereotype. If an individual from the tube comes here, and is willing to adapt to a different environment, then they will probably do just fine here. It's kinda like how I hate going to crowded night clubs, I'd rather just go to a bar. Simply because there are different types of people at both, and the environment is different, but it's not to say that I can't spend a night clubbing if I want to.

The truth of the matter is: you--tube, metacafe, veoh, and all those streaming video sites, will change how visual media is used, and seen. This fact alone will affect the org, whether we are adopting tubers or not.

On a side note: The world is ending! I had to drive home in snow today for the first time in my life. My entire house and backyard are covered with snow. We are having a snow day tomorrow for schools (too bad there isn't a "work" day). They are talking about icy conditions tomorrow morning for my drive to work. Flights are cancelled, and the highways are closed. The world is ending because I live in SUNNY, WARM, NO SNOW Las Vegas, NV. Rose, hates snow, that's why she lives here. Too bad we just had 8 inches! ----sorry, I had to rant some where. Besides, I was the lame person who wore Sandals to work today.

[guardiansoulblade]

Someone was kinda harsh to me concerning my Bleach AMV because they said I did the effects wrong, and i did it the way I thought I should and they were unimpressed and I think it was really good, considering the fact that the Season Three Boxset isn't out yet and I'm waiting to buy that because it has the footage I really want to use, and just because it's not Sony Vegas doesn't mean it's not good.