HD AMV Questionaire

[LittleAtari]

I just wanted a quick look around to see how common HD editing has become for editors now. Here's what I want to know:

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?

2 - If you do edit in HD, what method do you use? Do you bait and switch or edit directly off the 720p or 1080p? Do you edit in both 720p and 1080p? Are you restricted to only 720p at the moment?

3 - How do you like editing in HD? Is the extra render time and larger file sizes worth it with your current system?

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

5 - How are conventions adapting HD into their AMV showings and is it a priority at your con?

[LittleAtari]

I edit in HD straight off the clips and sometimes, I bait and switch. The only times I bait and switch is if I have an idea that I want to just jump into, encoding a 480p or 360p clip is really easy on my system and then I can get the higher res out later.

I have the resources to both edit and play 1080p sources, but I stick to 720p simply because I only have a 720p monitor at the moment

As for the videos i watch, I usually will grab the 720p version if available.

[dreamawake]

I edit with straight up 720p lossless footage, always. (When I am indeed using HD footage)

I have the resources for 1080p, but I believe that 1080p is mostly pointless as the majority of users don't have systems/monitors that support 1080p. I feel 720p is more than adequate.

[Kionon]

I am currently working on two videos using 1080p footage. I edit directly from 1080p ripped off of BluRay. One is slated for release sometime next March. One has no release date. The vast majority of my sources are not HD, and therefore, do not need an HD AMV, because upscales are silly.

I watch AMVs in HD, but dislike upscales unless required because certain portions of the video are natively in HD, and there is no other choice.

I think we are a long way from conventions being able to or willing to invest in HD equipment. If I was still a decision maker at a convention, I would not choose to put resources into HD systems yet.

[Castor Troy]

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?

Pretty much the first reason. The majority of my sources aren't in HD.

2 - If you do edit in HD, what method do you use? Do you bait and switch or edit directly off the 720p or 1080p? Do you edit in both 720p and 1080p? Are you restricted to only 720p at the moment?

For my Resident Evil 5 video, I fraps'ed the footage in 720p and edited in that.

3 - How do you like editing in HD? Is the extra render time and larger file sizes worth it with your current system?

It makes no difference, really.

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

I grab the HD version if it's available.

5 - How are conventions adapting HD into their AMV showings and is it a priority at your con?

It's not a priority at any of the cons I frequently send to.

[Bauzi]

I've just finished my first 1080p amv two weeks ago and yes there is quite a lot of effects use in AE too in it. I'm happy that I can share my experience with it.

Okay my system is as following:
Windows 7 x64; Premiere Pro CS5; 2.46 Ghz Dual Core; 4GB DDR2 RAM Laptop; Adobe Create Suite CS5
26" FullHD monitor

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?

1) I would do it again. The problem is the source. First off: Older upscaled anime are not worth it. I had a copy of an original BluRay and all I got was my PAL DVD with 1080p artifacts, blending and noise. No thank you. I wouldn't touch 1080p rereleases like Akira. Though 720p of those sources is acceptable. New HD animes are still hot.

The main problem is disksize. I edited with 2 HD movies. Both needed 120GB per lossless video file. The proxies took 20Gb per movie. I'm not a fan of only rendering some clips out of VDM for working. I hardly do that. So a multi anime project is a matter of harddiskspace.

My bluray was a bitch to rip. It's quite hard for some blurays. Though I heard that there are easy BRs too.

2 - If you do edit in HD, what method do you use? Do you bait and switch or edit directly off the 720p or 1080p? Do you edit in both 720p and 1080p? Are you restricted to only 720p at the moment?

2) Bait&Switch. My system was not able to handle 1080p Lagarith files for editing. That's okay. Premiere Pro CS5 wanted to cheat on me. The program meant that it can play the files fluently without rendering. That was not true. I tricked the program and placed a 1% visible black track mate at the top of the video. That forced Premiere Pro to render my stuff.

My Bait&Switch file was MJPEG in 1080p. The 480p (upscaled with avs) was not a good choice. Upsacleing made this proxy way too slow compared to the 1080p one. Yes I used the fast resizer in avs.

In real life live action projects, I use the 1080p XDCAM files of my cam directly in my editing software. It works good with this cam codec.

3 - How do you like editing in HD? Is the extra render time and larger file sizes worth it with your current system?

3) 1080p@24fps was better than I thought. The extra render time was really okay. I just ran out of RAM quite quickly with 4GB in After Effects. Basic editing in Premiere Pro CS5 was alright. No crahses at all. Some After Effects plug ins and scripts had some crashes and bugs in 1080p.

The frustrating part is that I can't play my finished amv in it's full glory with my system xD. I would need a datarate of 30MB/s or even more! You see I used a lot of mikro noise that gives the video it's visual style and damn it looks sooooo hot in HD with it. The only problem is that it takes enormous datarates in x264 : ( A video without noise effects should be fine.

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

4) I grab 720p. I grab the 1080p files if I'm more interested into them and think about making an amv with it.

5 - How are conventions adapting HD into their AMV showings and is it a priority at your con?

5) I hope the contest where I sent this video, apprecites this 1080p vid. I also gave them a 720p screening version, because I know that their system hasn't a full HD beamer.


I can't wait to release it in some weeks and see what other people experience with the 1080p version =D The release is in the next 2 weeks. I probably will have to do some fineworks on the colours of the clips.

I have the resources for 1080p, but I believe that 1080p is mostly pointless as the majority of users don't have systems/monitors that support 1080p. I feel 720p is more than adequate.

Yeah somehow. This project was more a test for my system if it can handle it. This 1080p vid is pure luxus.

[godix]

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?[/quotel]
Because I have a shitton of non-HD source to use and no HD source. Plus the few HD animes I've seen don't really look all that much better. Unless there's a shitton of detail in the art, it looks pretty much the same as properly filtered non-HD stuff.

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

Best quality available. Given hard drive sizes, it's not a big issue even if the extra size doesn't often mean spectacularly greater quality.

[EvaFan]

I just wanted a quick look around to see how common HD editing has become for editors now. Here's what I want to know:

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?

2 - If you do edit in HD, what method do you use? Do you bait and switch or edit directly off the 720p or 1080p? Do you edit in both 720p and 1080p? Are you restricted to only 720p at the moment?

3 - How do you like editing in HD? Is the extra render time and larger file sizes worth it with your current system?

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

5 - How are conventions adapting HD into their AMV showings and is it a priority at your con?

1. Because My source is not in HD, and my current setup can only handle 720 unless I create clips for 1080 footage which I hate doing. If I try to edit a 1080avs file directly, it's like editing with stop motion on this rig.

2. I edit with 720 avs files and if its 1080 downsize or make clips if I cant get the downsize to look good since rig can't handle it.

3. To be honest I hate it on this rig (It's not worth the effort on this rig unless its 720). If I had the rig I plan to get in the future right now, I'd probably be jumping on the quality bandwagon for all possible sources.

4. I can handle watching 1080 fine, editing is the problem. Always, always... always grab the highest quality version possible.

5. Don't go to conventions. Only time I've went is when someone asked me to come. Raven .

[Nya-chan Production]

1 - If you dont edit in HD, why are you not editing in HD? Is it because of the sources you use are not available in HD or is it because your system cannot handle it or it becomes an inconvenience at times?

Because my system doesn't handle 720p and larger well while editing. Also upscales and the fact that downscaled sources look sharper.

2 - If you do edit in HD, what method do you use? Do you bait and switch or edit directly off the 720p or 1080p? Do you edit in both 720p and 1080p? Are you restricted to only 720p at the moment?

I did 720p once and it was big fun, editing directly in 720p. Slow, but manageable. 1080p is a no-no for me, I suppose.

3 - How do you like editing in HD? Is the extra render time and larger file sizes worth it with your current system?

Probably worth it, but frankly - the masses won't even notice, you could upscale 240p and they would be pleased that it moves and has music.

4 - Do you watch AMVs in HD or grab the lower res or both?

I usually grab both for my favorite editors, but when it's unplayable I just go for the lower res (but keep the HD stuff).

5 - How are conventions adapting HD into their AMV showings and is it a priority at your con?

They can play them (720p as upper cap), but the priority is getting better stuff submitted to the con, I suppose :3

[Ileia]

Most of the source I already have isn't in HD and while the source might be available in HD, I see no point to reacquiring it. If I already bought Elfen Lied and it comes out in HD, I see no real need to buy it. I've edited in 720p before, and even in 1080p, Magix seemed okay with it, I just didn't release it that way. (though that was more because I no longer had my own hosting, and I wanted to have the most accessible version on local)