Pisses me off

Undertow · Post by **Undertow** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:45 am

I like AMVs and i like making them, but the one thing that really gets to me is the people who don't know a thing about the songs they use.
I see a lot of AMVs that don't even have the real name of the song in it, sugesting that the song was just downloaded.
Example: Rob Zombie - Devilman. There are a few AMV with this song. First of all the song is by White Zombie and second the song is called Supercharger Heaven.
Ther are a lot more of these, like: Disturbed - Voices. and some others, don't really have the time to check everything, but that just annoys the hell out of me.

The other thing is the people that really don't know what the song is all about.
Linkin' Park - In the end. THe song is about a relationship. And really should be used in that context and not to supersayans charging up, it has nothing to do with that. Same goes for the overused Rob Zombie song Dragula, which is a song about the Herman Munster's racing car.

So please people mind the music you're using and try to make something good out of it, and don't just use the song because it sounds cool but try to find out what it's all about.

Well, good luck everyone and hope to see something good come out of this

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:22 am

IMO, when people do that they only make themselves look stupid. And you know ahead of time not to bother watching their AMVs.

People do that because they're lazy and dumb, that's not going to change... but it is irritating.

Undertow · Post by **Undertow** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:32 am

Something that also annoys me is the fact that a lot of people just cannot seem to capture the feel of a song (sometimes i don't get it quite right eighter) and this really screws up the timing of the entire AMV.

I'll give an exaple of how it should be done, because this really is one of my favorites and shows a great talent for timing, and really captures the feel of the song

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... .php?v=153

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:03 am

It used top bug me but I've given up on trying to correctly inform people.

System of a Down - Angels deserve to die
System of a Down - When Angels deserve to die
Linkin Park - Forfit the game

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:45 am

SarahtheBoring wrote:IMO, when people do that they only make themselves look stupid. And you know ahead of time not to bother watching their AMVs.

People do that because they're lazy and dumb, that's not going to change... but it is irritating.

Me salutes*

In the end, I'm surrounded by idiots...

"Morons, I've got Morons on mah team..."

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:16 pm

First, this entire post is eerily familiar. I could swear I saw the exact same complaint on this forum not *too* long ago - about 'In the End' in particular. And I still don't see the problem.

So what if a song is about a failed relationship? Are two people who fight together and act as rivals (while also helping each other as underhanded friends) not counted as being in a relationship? Who says it has to be a romantic relationship? Since when do you have to take a song on it's literal meaning? Do you think every single amv on the org using Evanescence's 'Bring me to life' should be condemned because no one uses it the way the artists intended (as a song inspired by the 'Never ending story')? Do we think 'Chibi things that kill' is a horrible video because it doesn't talk aboutt the little things in a relationship that cause it to go downhill?

The great thing about amvs is that the creator interprets the song - not the original artist. No one has to keep exactly what the writers of the song inteneded, and anyone who thinks that way would be in the same category as those people who don't belive in parodies that take an anime out of context. Context *is* what the amv creator makes it out to be - that includes how the person interprets the music, as well as how the perosn chooses to use (or view) the anime matched to that music.

There is no such thing as "using a song out of context" unless you're being paid to visualize exactly what the song writer tells you to make it about. I'm sorry if it annoys people, but there would be no originality in amvs if everyone used songs exactly as the artists intended. And that would be insanely boring.

Now, having the name listed wrong because of a download is fine to complain about - complain away. But don't go getting 'pissed' because someone chooses to interpret a song in a way you don't happen to like. It's called creative license, and it's what makes amvs 'artistic' instead of just your average 'music video'. The next thing you know, you'll see complaints because people don't always show a clip of a hand when the word 'hand' is sung.

dokidoki · Post by **dokidoki** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:28 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:anyone who thinks that way would be in the same category as those people who don't belive in parodies that take an anime out of context.

There are people like that?

<parappa>I GOTTA BELIEVE!!!</parappa>

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:41 pm

dokidoki wrote:
Arigatomyna wrote:anyone who thinks that way would be in the same category as those people who don't belive in parodies that take an anime out of context.
There are people like that?

<parappa>I GOTTA BELIEVE!!!</parappa>

Heh, well, maybe not *funny* parodies. But there are hundreds who feel insulted and 'pissed' when they see pairings that don't coincide with the original anime - people who hate to see anything taken from an anime and twisted in a way that does not fit the original creator's idea. Just check the long 'yaoi' thread - people get up in arms at the idea of someone making a story from an anime that doesn't tell *exactly* what is already in the anime. As if that weren't bad enough, now we have people who get angry because others dare to take a song and use it in a way that doesn't fit the original idea of the song. It's all anti-creativity, and annoying as heck. >.<

ProphetDK · Post by **ProphetDK** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:14 pm

the song context, reminds me of fanfiction... alot of people would go out of their way and go, "Thats not what "lead Character" would do" or go "why did "secondary character" Take the lead in this story? The author didnt mean that!"

This is a personal art form, it means that we as "creators" make our own mind for the song and anime and portray it in what we think is best.. Other than that.. let the downloading/Not knowing the song name rant continue...

Undertow · Post by **Undertow** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:24 pm

People being creative and interpreting thing is great, no problems there. But people just making stuff without even knowing what the real names or even the artists of the songs are, let alone know what the songs are all about, that's just plain wrong.
And about the Linkin Park thing, i cannot see any way in which this song can even be used, except by the sort of people discribed above who just pick a song that's in the charts, because, well it's in the charts so lets use it. A song like Cadillac Rock Box from Anthrax would fit better to a gundam AMV than In the end would fit to just about anything.
People can be creative and do things there own way but my problem lies with people who don't even try to find out what the songs are about. There are way to many people like this and are making it difficult for the people who actually want to make something good and be recognised for their effort. People that atleast try to capture the feel of a song and take the time to choose a good song to go with a good video are rare (this reminded me of this AMV).

Well if this offends you or annoy you, well, too bad for you. This is my opinion and i seem to share that with some of the other members who do care about what we make, and want to make something that we can be proud of, instead of just making a crappy AMV to a crappy popsong.