Video(s) Riped off.

GohanV3 · Post by **GohanV3** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:17 pm

Plz see this video, and compare to the videos following the first link.

http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... d_id=36418

Videos to compare to:

SSJVegita17: http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... hp?v=27299

GohanV3: http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... hp?v=32384
http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... hp?v=35565

Dark Kamui: http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... id_id=5928

This guy riped off all these videos, put the footage together and called it his own. Plz look and tell me if i'm wrong to post this, I wouldn't really care if it wasn't for the fact that he riped off 2 of my vids in the process.

Bote · Post by **Bote** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:21 pm

I see you demolished him with your op. Peh, got what he deserved.

GohanV3 · Post by **GohanV3** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:24 pm

1 for the amv community, 0 for the creator.

Char the second · Post by **Char the second** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:58 pm

what am i looking for?

SSJVegita0609 · Post by **SSJVegita0609** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:59 pm

Technically, you can't do anything outside of op it. The concept of stealing footage isn't new, ESPECIALLY not in dbz videos... Meh...

Pyle · Post by **Pyle** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:21 pm

He didn't really claim it was his...using clips from videos isn't quite a crime if you ask me.

My FFX video has clips used from Feanor's a thousand years, several downloads, and a crappily ripped Blitzball game FMV. They aren't full scenes done by Feanor though, they are done for the footage. I take the footage from his video and edit it the way I want it.

Naturally, your going to get yelled at if you admit that. So I'm prepared.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:28 pm

And dignify your feeble existence? I think not.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:34 pm

Pyle wrote:He didn't really claim it was his...using clips from videos isn't quite a crime if you ask me.

My FFX video has clips used from Feanor's a thousand years, several downloads, and a crappily ripped Blitzball game FMV. They aren't full scenes done by Feanor though, they are done for the footage. I take the footage from his video and edit it the way I want it.

Naturally, your going to get yelled at if you admit that. So I'm prepared.

That's a little sickening to hear - unless you gave credit to your sources in that video. When you rip footage from FFX you credit that game by listing it in the vid description (in the 'anime' section). If you rip footage from Feanor's video, you should give the same credit - it's your source.

Now, if you took edits and transitions then it's theft of someone else's editing work and just giving credit won't cut it, you're stealing more than just second-hand footage, you're stealing the editor's contribution to that anime/game. For simple stollen footage, citing your souces is all you have to do.

You're still breaking the downloaded footage rule, but you're merely borrowing footage instead of stealing concepts - giving credit to the person who bought and ripped that footage should be common sense. Or maybe common courtesy is the better way to refer to it. At this rate, you'll never be the next favorite editor around here - not if you boast about stealing clips from your fellow editors, and think you don't owe them at least the recognition for having gone to the trouble of getting their own footage for you to steal.

Pyle · Post by **Pyle** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:04 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Pyle wrote:He didn't really claim it was his...using clips from videos isn't quite a crime if you ask me.

My FFX video has clips used from Feanor's a thousand years, several downloads, and a crappily ripped Blitzball game FMV. They aren't full scenes done by Feanor though, they are done for the footage. I take the footage from his video and edit it the way I want it.

Naturally, your going to get yelled at if you admit that. So I'm prepared.
That's a little sickening to hear - unless you gave credit to your sources in that video. When you rip footage from FFX you credit that game by listing it in the vid description (in the 'anime' section). If you rip footage from Feanor's video, you should give the same credit - it's your source.

Now, if you took edits and transitions then it's theft of someone else's editing work and just giving credit won't cut it, you're stealing more than just second-hand footage, you're stealing the editor's contribution to that anime/game. For simple stollen footage, citing your souces is all you have to do.

You're still breaking the downloaded footage rule, but you're merely borrowing footage instead of stealing concepts - giving credit to the person who bought and ripped that footage should be common sense. Or maybe common courtesy is the better way to refer to it. At this rate, you'll never be the next favorite editor around here - not if you boast about stealing clips from your fellow editors, and think you don't owe them at least the recognition for having gone to the trouble of getting their own footage for you to steal.

I don't think anyone on this .org sees anything except in a negative light.

I don't think I was bragging about it. I was just trying to make a point. I wasn't sure what to do when I took clips from him, so I just left it the way it was and hoped I wouldn't get yelled at.

Knew it was coming.

If it makes you happy, I'll put it up in the vid description.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:51 pm

Pyle wrote:I don't think anyone on this .org sees anything except in a negative light.

I don't think I was bragging about it. I was just trying to make a point. I wasn't sure what to do when I took clips from him, so I just left it the way it was and hoped I wouldn't get yelled at.

Knew it was coming.
If it makes you happy, I'll put it up in the vid description.

I've had someone do this to me, so I default to seeing it in a negative light. Very few people can *just* take footage, especially when they don't have the source and don't realize what is and isn't a native edit (rather than something the amv maker added).

Why did you do it? You didn't know how to handle it - but why do it in the first place? If it's FFX, you could have bought the game. You could have downloaded all of the cg scenes off various websites on the net. There's no reason to take them from an amv editor. Any anime or game that is used in one vid contains footage that other people can get (if you're using downloaded footage, you might as well take it from the ones handing it out rather than from your fellow vid makers).

I see no point in ripping clips from someone else's video if you're not going to credit that person. Unless he says "feel free to tear this up and cannibalize it for your own vids" there isn't much excuse for it - not when you can download the same footage from a fansubber or a website who *want* you to download and use it however you like.

Regardless, citing your sources is the least you can do. I'd never rip footage from an anime dvd and try to pretend it wasn't stolen from that anime (and the people who released it). If I took from a video I'd give that same credit to the person who went through the anime and picked out the scenes you just so happen to want for your own work. He saved you from having to look for it on your own, the least you can do is drop his name in thanks.

[The main problem is when you take from people who bought the original source - you're using something they paid to get their hands on. It's no different from ripping the audio from somoene else's amv because you can't be bothered to look it up on kaaza. The difference - you don't have to sort through that song to find the best clips - the amv maker combined them for you. It's a slap in the face of the one's you're taking from - and if you consider yourself a part of that community - it's more than a little rude. At least try not to steal from your friends. Now...if you don't see yourself as part of the community, then go for it. No respect among theives and all that. ^_^; ]