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you don't need to be a bitchy critic.

Post by LilAznBabe13 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:59 pm

hey there. i've been having big problems with critics. and i'm sure some of you do too. i mostly hate the ones who judges others vidz and don't have a vid themselves. i mean come on, if u don't have a vid. u shouldn't be talking. i'm not saying u should like every vid u see. u can hate if u want. but they don't have to be a bitch about it. ok people try real had. and sometime people don't have good equipment. i'm sure all of u would understand that. u can say it was bad but don't make it sould so horrible. that's my suggestion to all the critics here.

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Post by dokool » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:23 pm

A, this is off-topic. This forum is for asking for AMV suggestions or suggesting your own videos that you think should be made.

B, you're wrong - I know plenty of people with few/no videos made who are more qualified to pass judgement than most editors.

C, if you can't take criticism, don't post your videos in a public forum, simple as that.

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Post by wurpess » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:38 pm

dokool wrote:A, this is off-topic. This forum is for asking for AMV suggestions or suggesting your own videos that you think should be made.

B, you're wrong - I know plenty of people with few/no videos made who are more qualified to pass judgement than most editors.

C, if you can't take criticism, don't post your videos in a public forum, simple as that.
I have to completely agree here. On ,the topic of B, ok LilAznBabe13, you were saying about people who don't have the equipment to make good vids. What if they have a great deal of knowledge on the the topic and/or took classes on things like video editing, but they don't own their own computer and therefore can't make vids. They would be more than qualified to pass judgement, but wouldn't have any of their own vids on here. And I agree that I hate people who needlessly flame vids, but there are some with lots of vids on here who do the same thing, so you can't just single out those who don't have vids. And like dokool said, if you can't take critism, don't post your vids.
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Re: you don't need to be a bitchy critic.

Post by Melanchthon » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:17 am

LilAznBabe13 wrote:hey there. i've been having big problems with critics. and i'm sure some of you do too.
Nope, I welcome criticism as much as I do praise.
i mostly hate the ones who judges others vidz and don't have a vid themselves. i mean come on, if u don't have a vid. u shouldn't be talking.
Oh, rubbish. I've never made a TV program or a movie, and I've never written a song either-- does that mean I'm not allowed to have an opinion on what I watch or listen to?
i'm not saying u should like every vid u see. u can hate if u want. but they don't have to be a bitch about it. ok people try real had.
That doesn't stop them from producing rubbish, or thinking they're making an effort when they're really not. Look at all the video descriptions that boast how the editor spent two whole days on their video.
and sometime people don't have good equipment.
People used to make AMVs using two VCRs. Having a better computer and a better editing program doesn't guarantee having better ideas or more technical knowledge.
u can say it was bad but don't make it sould so horrible. that's my suggestion to all the critics here.
I do concrit (only on videos that ask for feedback), and I try to keep the snark to an absolute minimum. Maybe I'm blunt, but I mean no offense and I don't do personal attacks. If you take offense anyway... not my problem.
LilAznBabe13's profile wrote: plz make sure u rate or/and comment my vidz. i really like to here peoples comments and see how they liked them.
Something tells me you haven't yet worked out the difference between constructive criticism and flaming.

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Re: you don't need to be a bitchy critic.

Post by megaman917 » Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:33 am

LilAznBabe13 wrote:hey there. i've been having big problems with critics. and i'm sure some of you do too. i mostly hate the ones who judges others vidz and don't have a vid themselves. i mean come on, if u don't have a vid. u shouldn't be talking. i'm not saying u should like every vid u see. u can hate if u want. but they don't have to be a bitch about it. ok people try real had. and sometime people don't have good equipment. i'm sure all of u would understand that. u can say it was bad but don't make it sould so horrible. that's my suggestion to all the critics here.
Bitching about people who you think are being bitchy. :amv:
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Post by amcsi » Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:49 am

It can hurt to see people diss your work, but just because you made it, and it has your thoughts in it, won't make the watchers think the same way.
There are 3 keys in making an AMV, that they'll like, I'll tell you them:
1) Good Quality: DON'T use windows movie maker. Use Vegas Video or Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 (noone wants to see bad quality wmv videos)
2) Outside point of view: Don't just start making what's on your mind. Check out the AMVs, that you don't just watch once, but watch over and over again, cuz you really like'em. What's different between those kinds, and the kinds that you only watch once or very rare? Find out what makes the GOOD amvs tick, and always think a similar way when making your own AMV.
3) 0.5 to 1 second clips only (maximum is 2), unless that clip has alot of action. This is because if it's too long, everyone's gonna think "oh come on, when can we move to the next clip". NEVER bore everyone with longer clips with no extra content.

These are the main keys, that you should really pay attention to. I'm making my second AMV now (in the first one, I messed up keys 2 and 3 sos many people didn't like it), but I'm sure these are really important for making good AMVs.
Good luck

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Post by megaman917 » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:13 pm

amcsi wrote:It can hurt to see people diss your work, but just because you made it, and it has your thoughts in it, won't make the watchers think the same way.
There are 3 keys in making an AMV, that they'll like, I'll tell you them:
1) Good Quality: DON'T use windows movie maker. Use Vegas Video or Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 (noone wants to see bad quality wmv videos)
2) Outside point of view: Don't just start making what's on your mind. Check out the AMVs, that you don't just watch once, but watch over and over again, cuz you really like'em. What's different between those kinds, and the kinds that you only watch once or very rare? Find out what makes the GOOD amvs tick, and always think a similar way when making your own AMV.
3) 0.5 to 1 second clips only (maximum is 2), unless that clip has alot of action. This is because if it's too long, everyone's gonna think "oh come on, when can we move to the next clip". NEVER bore everyone with longer clips with no extra content.

These are the main keys, that you should really pay attention to. I'm making my second AMV now (in the first one, I messed up keys 2 and 3 sos many people didn't like it), but I'm sure these are really important for making good AMVs.
Good luck
You are completely misguided.
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Post by amcsi » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:17 pm

Oh yea? Got better ideas than me? Then I want to hear them

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Post by megaman917 » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:05 pm

1.0) When Making AMVs: How you use your footage and editing software will always determine the outcome and feedback for your video, regardless of what editing software is used. Anyone can use Vegas or Premier and give us crap; and anyone can use Windows Movie Maker to make one of the best videos of all time. (Highly unlikely, but not impossible.)
1.1) Depending on what you wish to do with your video, you may want to download, buy, or create add-on features for Movie Maker. You always have the option of switching to (or starting off with) other programs such Vegas, Premier, AVIsynth, VirtualDubMod, etc for the ton of features that are not found in Movie Maker.
1.2) All editing programs have their pros & cons, advantages & disadvantages.
1.3) The type of footage you use, rendering settings, filters, scripts, etc will affect your visual quality, regardless of software used.
1.4) As far as file formats and codec are concerned, whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote. If you feel that one doesn't work for you, move on to something else.
1.5) Speak/Make your video for yourself and no one else. You are one person, who is a part of the collective community. Therefore you alone cannot (i.e. no one person can) speak for the collective. As far as videos go, trying to impress everyone will result in impressing no one.

2.0) The creative process varies from person to person. Most will watch a ton of AMVs over an over. Others start of with the anime they want. Others get their ideas from music. There are those that take several different approaches for one video or From video to video.

3.0) Make your clips as long as you need them to be. It's your video.

4.0) What you want your video to be is everything. What others want is irrelevant.
4.1) Keep in mind that not everyone is going to like or hate your video.
4.2) This is a hobby, nothing more. As long you like your video, nothing else should really matter.

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind" - Dr. Seuss
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying!" - R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero (1967 - 2005)
Through tragedy, she found triumph. R.I.P. Coretta Scott King (1927 - 2006)
Long live the "King of Pop"! R.I.P. Michael Jackson (1958 - 2009)

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Post by CodeZTM » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:26 pm

Critisism is part of life, and we all must learn to take it. Nobody's video is perfect, and they need to know what went wrong with it. How are they supposed to know if they don't know what is wrong with their AMV? As for the people without vids, I have only 5 AMV's made (all duds unfortunetly..), and I accepted the critisism of them all without any complaint. Why? Because I want to make better AMV's, and become a great editor. However, if you don't wish to take the critisism that the people on this site gives, that's fine. I'm not here to force down my judgement upon you, just to inform you.

Have a great day,

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