Idea-Good Or Bad-Merging Editing Styles From Past AMV's

TwilightChrono · Post by **TwilightChrono** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:38 pm

Excuse me if this is the wrong forum to be in. But, I think it's right.

Now, basically, I just made a new AMV, Virtues Of The Mind I also have anothe AMV up that is called The Radiance of Macross. Now, the editing styles in these AMV's are completely different from one another. One focuses on Beat Sync and Cut Sync while the other focuses on Lip and Mood Sync.

I want to make a part 2 to my Radiance Of Macross AMV, but I want to keep the same feel as the other, but add more beat sync to it. But, my conundrum is that I don't wanna overdo the beat sync. And I don't want to add a lot of effects.

There won't be a general story to the AMV, so, I'm not so worried about that. I wanna use the same type of music for this new AMV as I did the last, J-Pop, but I want the flow to be good as well. Do you think it would be a bad idea to merge the 2 styles of editing or no?

For the record, I will be using Macross Frontier.

For once, I am asking what I should in this situation, because I am at a loss here. So, I have come to this forum to ask for help. What would any of you do in this situation? Scene shortage is not an issue here. If you need any more info, let me know. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

~Twilight~

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:24 am

I like consistency in a video, but if you feel confident to pull off two different styles, then do it.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:39 am

Castor Troy wrote:I like consistency in a video

What he said. It irks me out when a video changes where it changes scenes (i.e. on specific 1/4th notes, etc.) or flow. Or more importantly, when a video doesn't seem to have any sense of flow or organization which is more common probably more common.

TwilightChrono · Post by **TwilightChrono** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:35 am

Well, what brought this on, is because my mom's brother came to the house for a visit and is here for about 2 months or so. And what makes this even more relative to the subject is that he is an Aussie Editor. I showed him Macross Frontier and then showed him the first AMV I made to it. He was impressed but said it needed a lot of work, and that if I was willing to learn, we could do a part 2 and he would teach me the finer points of effects usage. (Whatever that means)

He said he won't do any of the work but will be willing to sit by me whenever I start editing and coach me. And thus, this is the reason why I am asking help, which is something I don't normally do. I don't want to many effects, but at the same time, I wanna keep the lip sync from the previous video, but add more beat sync to it, and a little more effects, as their were so very few in the last one.

Hope that bit of info helps.

Megamom · Post by **Megamom** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:55 pm

In addition, it is important to the selection of scenes, it is good that the AMV has a good synchronization, but more importantly, that AMV has a concept that everyone can understand, the fluidity of the scenes well chosen, and conecion between scenes .. .

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:03 pm

Do what you like.

Megamom · Post by **Megamom** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:17 pm

Kevmaster wrote:Do what you like.

Good advice ...!

I forget to put it in my last post!

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:20 pm

I'd say try it at least, and if you like it then cool, if not then it was at least worth the experience of trying wasn't it?

TwilightChrono · Post by **TwilightChrono** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:16 pm

If anyone here has seen my first one, I think you can attest to the needing improvement part. Due to the over-filtering and what not. The Lip Sync I thought was done well, but apparently it still needs some improvement. I just want to portray the same theme that The Macross Series is known for.

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:25 pm

Focusing on internal sync is probably the best remedy for trying to mix mood and beat sync fluidly. Also pay closer attention to how one scene flows into the next - this affects mood sync more than perhaps anything else, short of the juxtaposition of the scene against the music.

Only you really know what looks good to your eyes, and a lot of the finesse this requires comes partially from watching experience and partially from editing experience - you grow into knowing what kinds of edits you like to see, and therefore performing them yourself. If you keep your sights firmly on how things are maintained, it's easier to field the ability to mix styles.

For instance, in more than one of my own videos, I switch from long cuts to short cuts depending on how the music in question plays out - when I switch to longer cuts (this usually occurs during the verses/choruses of the song), it makes it easier to focus on the mood being set, and the shorter cuts can be set up to reinforce the longer ones. This can get predictable, but that's also why paying close attention to internal sync and scene flow are important.

Even if this is something you were already doing, it never hurts to call added attention to it - think and meditate on it a tad more, if anything.