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Post by VEGETA_LSSJ » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:01 am

nice said :D ! I never remembered to say that...thanx!...If you really don't like DBZ or song, why downloading it?
On the other side if you are DBZ fan then download it, it may be interesting to you...

kickass331, that's why I didn't downloaded your AMV, I just hate like Linkin Park...but Bleach looks like powerful anime sometimes...hmmm what should I do...
:D
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Post by NS » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:26 pm

kickass331 wrote:
VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:@SSJ3 Son Jp
Well just because you done something you wanted to do doesn't mean its right? :/
Yes for me it mean it is RIGHT FOR ME, and that is most important for me.
Here, What I want to do is make a 5 minute amv right? I'm gonna use a linkin park song and have a clip of master roshi just standing still the whole five minutes.This is what i WANT to do, And I am very capable of doing it, But would it be entertaining to watch? No. Do yo uget what i'm saying now?
If you REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY wanted to do that, and that is entertaining to YOU, than you did EXCELENT work! way to go! do YOU get it now?
It seems that you just can't accept the fact that I am satisfied with my AMV pretty much, not perfectly but almost...
Almost everything is subjective...
I know how it is to have release something you worked hard on but only to find that there are critiques. I thought my first AMV was good enough but in the end, I fought my stubbornness and learned to accept error. For an action, lyric sync and lip sync you did well in but there's always cons which I think you should accept. Everyone can improve on something.

Sure, you completed what you wanted to do which is great but there's also the other things which you didn't do well or not so well. Please don't get the wrong impression that we hate it or anything...It's just that it is pointless.
I can't accept error that is not error for me, because I made this vid totally in my taste, If someone said - "hey! on the credits that last scene where everyone shoots waves, the scene with GOHAN is little bit messy with video quality it seems that you set the image pan or something..." I'd accept that as an error. But those things you were telling me about is just another version of my video in your taste, and for me this is nearly best way, why I should change it against my taste...

I accept that you think it would be better to do this and to do that, but it does not have to mean that f it is NOT like that, that then it is WRONG, there is no WRONG or RGIHT for me...it have only wrong in my opinion and right in my opinion, at least in AMVs case, or soe other creativities.

Do you all understand now? Tastes...we are all different...and that is actually good thing...
I agree with this post...

People like different things... And IMO this was a great video, the lip syncing was perfect, and all of you think it sucks just because you think DBZ is stupid... If you don't like it then don't download it 'nuff said...
I was one of the first to download it. And I was right about it back then. I don't think DBZ is stupid, Jesus.

Also at whatever the fuck LSSJ.

What YOU Don't fucking get is that even though YOU Are satisfied with this we are giving YOU Ideas on how to make YOUR Next vid better for everybody else.

Jesus christ, I've never met somebody so fucking dense and stubborn.

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Post by NS » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:27 pm

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:nice said :D ! I never remembered to say that...thanx!...If you really don't like DBZ or song, why downloading it?
On the other side if you are DBZ fan then download it, it may be interesting to you...

kickass331, that's why I didn't downloaded your AMV, I just hate like Linkin Park...but Bleach looks like powerful anime sometimes...hmmm what should I do...
:D
Don't download any of his stuff, I've heard it's.. Not so much on the kickass side.

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Post by Zero Link » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:33 pm

Nerd, just leave him alone before you get banned again lol. You can't talk sense into everybody that needs it so just let them fall on their face. They'll learn to fix their mistakes in the future.
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Post by VEGETA_LSSJ » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 pm

@NerdStrudel,
What YOU Don't fucking get is that even though YOU Are satisfied with this we are giving YOU Ideas on how to make YOUR Next vid better for everybody else.
Ok than I am grateful for your ideas, thank you very much! but chances to do my AMV to be better for everyone, and not for me, are very very low...I always watch firstly MY taste...I'm that way, I just don't ever want to do something with which I disagree just to look nicer to everyone...

Oh and yes I am probably stubbornest creature in the universe I admit that, but in the same time I am tolerant :D

@SSJ3 Son Jp, thank you for the help, it is ok...he is not bad, he is just trying hard to explane me something, just like I tried to explane him, we both get it now, I guess... and that is all... :D

Everything is ok, this is AMV discussion, not AMV fight...I just want best for everyone(GOKU in me) though when I'm angry, then I want total opposite of that(VEGETA in me) :D
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Post by macguy » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:09 pm

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:but chances to do my AMV to be better for everyone, and not for me, are very very low...I always watch firstly MY taste...I'm that way, I just don't ever want to do something with which I disagree just to look nicer to everyone...
It's not about looking nicer but about how it can be better. If an action video is your taste then fine but we'll still call it pointless because that's a fact. Whether someone could glance over that fact, is largely up to the viewer but we thought it was worth mentioning.

Why is it a fact? If someone attacked your video, because they didn't like the song or don't consider Vegeta as a good character, then it would be a matter of taste just like chocolate vs vanilla. In this case, we are actually demonstrating what your video lacks...

For example, let's say that there are two battlefield stories. One mostly talks about all the blood and fighting where as the other also talks about the friendship, loyalty, pain, love, etc... While blood and fighting is good, we may rightly criticize that movie for lacking things such as a true storyline. Some may not like fighting so would prefer more drama but this is a matter of taste and has nothing to do with what is wrong with the video.

Of course you can argue that, "Well I did it in a way that fits my taste" still doesn't refute the fact that you lack it. It's good that you accomplished what you set out to make, but we are simply suggesting what would make it better.
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Post by NS » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:24 pm

The next thing you type Better be very simply "fine"

Lssj

The same thing has been said about this video over the course of 5 pages, leave it go.

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Post by VEGETA_LSSJ » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:19 am

@macguy
Of course you can argue that, "Well I did it in a way that fits my taste" still doesn't refute the fact that you lack it. It's good that you accomplished what you set out to make, but we are simply suggesting what would make it better.
To lack in something you have to have some standard, on which you can lack comparing to that standard. BUT 1. nowhere it says "video must be like this or that"
2. Even if there is some standard, I AM REBEL from my birth and I don't give damn for it, I do what I want.
You may now say I luck in comparing to all good vids but I'll say "thank you for the information, but I don't care, I will not change it that way, because it would be against mine taste"

So if I think I did great work and I did good balance between action and story FOR MY TASTE and just like I IMAGINED, then I am satisfied and I will not change it any other way...except I change my opinion but that is happening very rarely.

I'll said again almost everything is subjective, the objective things must have some standard, but you don't have to follow that standard, you may follow or you may not, that is just your decision...

Well I hope NOW everithing is clear, just can't understand the fact that you can't understand the fact that I respect your opinions, but I will not do something different then my way...
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Post by kickass331 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:30 am

I think this AMV would easily be deserving of a 5, yes it has problems, and it may lack originality, but still there's no reason to argue over it...
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Post by NS » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:31 am

If you "were rebel" You wouldn't be making only DBZ vids.

/nuff said

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