What he said, but I disagree with the one good point he gave you, which was video quality. That quality looked godawful for a blu ray version of bebop, you didn't even bother to crop off those black bars on the top or bottom o_O-Reda- wrote:Guess I really have to be the one to say this.
This video was bad on a lot of levels. The editing was very tasteless for one. Part of having a good knowledge of editing is knowing what works and what doesn't as well as when to use something and when to leave well enough alone. Based on those criteria I would disagree with Guy07 and say that you do NOT have a good knowledge of editing.
For one thing, the repetitive nature of this whole AMV was absolutely ridiculous. Lyrical sync was practically hilarious because every time I heard "blood stains in the apartment" or something like that, you flashed back to the apartment scene. Which would have been fine if you didn't do it about 4 times through-out the entire video. We get it, you tried to do lyrical sync. It sucked, move on. Don't beat a dead horse.
Your blurs were completely retarded and your blood was totally off color. In case you haven't noticed, blood isn't exactly bright fire engine fucking red. So while its "cool" that you edited it onto the floor, a bit more realism in this kind of editing would have been a nice relief. And maybe a splatter or two, not just a circular puddle, because its blood, not pancake mix.
It feels like you tried to do a "Whisper of the Beast" style editing job on this and I'm pleased to report that you failed completely. The masking or cut outs, whatever you choose to call them, were poorly placed and they completely lacked overall purpose. Your video quality is good but I sincerely hope this is an actual bluray release and not an upscale, which is very much a no-no.
That aside this could have been a really cool concept if you had taken tone a bit more seriously as well as the actual editing job. I must admit I was excited looking at the posters for this, but I thought the white outlines around your characters were for Poster purposes, not in the actual video, where it just looks ridiculous. The truly great editing is editing you can't notice or see. Fantastic to know that you highlighted it for us.
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as expected from u.....ArashinomeAMV wrote:What he said, but I disagree with the one good point he gave you, which was video quality. That quality looked godawful for a blu ray version of bebop, you didn't even bother to crop off those black bars on the top or bottom o_O-Reda- wrote:Guess I really have to be the one to say this.
This video was bad on a lot of levels. The editing was very tasteless for one. Part of having a good knowledge of editing is knowing what works and what doesn't as well as when to use something and when to leave well enough alone. Based on those criteria I would disagree with Guy07 and say that you do NOT have a good knowledge of editing.
For one thing, the repetitive nature of this whole AMV was absolutely ridiculous. Lyrical sync was practically hilarious because every time I heard "blood stains in the apartment" or something like that, you flashed back to the apartment scene. Which would have been fine if you didn't do it about 4 times through-out the entire video. We get it, you tried to do lyrical sync. It sucked, move on. Don't beat a dead horse.
Your blurs were completely retarded and your blood was totally off color. In case you haven't noticed, blood isn't exactly bright fire engine fucking red. So while its "cool" that you edited it onto the floor, a bit more realism in this kind of editing would have been a nice relief. And maybe a splatter or two, not just a circular puddle, because its blood, not pancake mix.
It feels like you tried to do a "Whisper of the Beast" style editing job on this and I'm pleased to report that you failed completely. The masking or cut outs, whatever you choose to call them, were poorly placed and they completely lacked overall purpose. Your video quality is good but I sincerely hope this is an actual bluray release and not an upscale, which is very much a no-no.
That aside this could have been a really cool concept if you had taken tone a bit more seriously as well as the actual editing job. I must admit I was excited looking at the posters for this, but I thought the white outlines around your characters were for Poster purposes, not in the actual video, where it just looks ridiculous. The truly great editing is editing you can't notice or see. Fantastic to know that you highlighted it for us.
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wooow what criticism i agree with the blood part its to bright andOmikami_Amaterasu wrote:I agree with some of the things Reda said, but not all of them.
The multiple flashes back into the same room didn't sit ill with me; I mean after all it's not the same part of the scene; it was different each time so it was alright.
I like some of the masking effects, mainly the graphics of guns moving across the screen. The character maskings were awkward for me though, like Reda said, due to the white border around the edges - also the colored cutouts look too angular... I know you used the Pen Tool but the shapes just don't look very natural. I think that's what Reda meant by "Good editing shoud not stand out"; it should be absorbed naturally by the viewer, not so much make them notice the effects.
The syncing was generally fairly solid although I think you used the same explosion several times during the part around 2:03 to 2:15, even though the shots flash by very fast, they are still too similar and became redundant to me.
The aforementioned blood stains... I think everyone's monitor has different color temparature; on mine it's not bright pumpkin orange; it's fairly red BUT still too bright to look natural. If the blood is still fresh, it shouldn't be that transparent; if it's dried up stain, it can be transparent like that but should be a dark brownish-color. I think the biggest problem with the blood stain is that you instantly tell yourself "Oh he masked that" instead of "That expanding blood strain on the floor looks nice - wait, I don't remember that from the anime!"
i didn't like the guns its better off other then that it was amazing
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Was the video really that god awful? Forgive, I'm new to the forums and I wonder if people do not remember how it was to be a beginner and not know how to do everything? I am really starting to believe the people here are simply spoiled by people who've learned to do AMVs on a professional level. If anything isn't perfect, it's ripped apart in the most unkind way possible. Well, I guess all I'm saying is, I very much enjoy the videos by the professionals, but do the people here really have to be so harsh on the rest of us?
*Excuse my offtopic-ness.*
I believe this is a very hard song to do, and that people should not try to match every action to the beat (it's simply too fast) But such videos are to me at least, enjoyable to watch to some degree.
You really do take criticism like a pro.
*Excuse my offtopic-ness.*
I believe this is a very hard song to do, and that people should not try to match every action to the beat (it's simply too fast) But such videos are to me at least, enjoyable to watch to some degree.
You really do take criticism like a pro.
Music is well said to be the speech of angels...
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Honestly when people post a video here they know they are releasing it to a community of other editors rather than the general viewing public. Our job/duty as other editors is to make suggestions as to how an editor can make their video more appealing to the general public and look professional (although the concept of a professional amver is practically a joke in its own sense).
To summarize, if we don't tell someone their work is awful, they'll never feel motivated to get any better. I believe theres actually a quote in "Sword of the Stranger" along similar lines. And while it does seem like we may be harsh, especially myself, it's only done with the best intentions although I do admit I enjoy pointing out the short comings of other peoples editing. But instead of just saying "bad video", I tell them what they did incorrectly and hope they address the problems I pointed out or at the very least consider them. This is the most I'll do for another editor. They took the time to make a video to display their skills so I'll take the time to write out exactly in what departments their skills need to be improved. If you wanna call me an asshole for it, do what you will, you probably did anyway.
And the people saying he takes crit well are joking, he didn't take it seriously at all and thats the problem. All I can say is when a vast majority of your posts about your video are excuses for short comings rather than responses, it's time to re-evaluate your video.
Honestly when people post a video here they know they are releasing it to a community of other editors rather than the general viewing public. Our job/duty as other editors is to make suggestions as to how an editor can make their video more appealing to the general public and look professional (although the concept of a professional amver is practically a joke in its own sense).
To summarize, if we don't tell someone their work is awful, they'll never feel motivated to get any better. I believe theres actually a quote in "Sword of the Stranger" along similar lines. And while it does seem like we may be harsh, especially myself, it's only done with the best intentions although I do admit I enjoy pointing out the short comings of other peoples editing. But instead of just saying "bad video", I tell them what they did incorrectly and hope they address the problems I pointed out or at the very least consider them. This is the most I'll do for another editor. They took the time to make a video to display their skills so I'll take the time to write out exactly in what departments their skills need to be improved. If you wanna call me an asshole for it, do what you will, you probably did anyway.
And the people saying he takes crit well are joking, he didn't take it seriously at all and thats the problem. All I can say is when a vast majority of your posts about your video are excuses for short comings rather than responses, it's time to re-evaluate your video.
*sips tea*
