The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

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The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by Spigy » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:43 pm

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Hey guys! First post here.

I would like to introduce my series of trailers and amvs about Naruto Shippuuden, so I am posting the trailer for it and then you can decide to follow up on the rest.

I can't promise HD or spectacular effects, but I can promise a good time (well if you hate Naruto then I guess not :wink:)
This project started about a year ago and it is ongoing. People who watched my vids liked them a lot and some are always eagerly waiting for the next release. The series itself is about Shippuuden and it shows every season (minus filler) with a trailer and a ~10 minute AMV using epic/trailer type music (One exception in season 1).

So far I released:
Season 1: Kazekage Rescue
Season 2: Reunion of Rivals
Season 3: Wrath of Immortals premieres next week.

Along the way I release 30 second promos as well which show off important characters of the season. There are also Special releases that are not classified as Season videos (so far only a small Christmas Special from last year, but bigger things are coming).

Anyway, I hope to get some viewers and comments and I especially hope you enjoy yourselves! If nothing else, I hope you acknowledge my efforts :oops:

I uploaded the vid here, but I recommend going to YT and following the playlist (please note that this trailer was sort of rushed and somewhat below the quality of the series, which is ever improving): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcFax73 ... playnext=1
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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by Ikore » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:58 am

I always want to post this:

Welcome to the .ORG, please take the time to read the rules and enter your video into the catalog, (not sure if possible, but well...):

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=28506

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=76342

have a nice day! |:>

about that yt playlist, same song, same fonts, same hard cuts over and over again, watched first amv that have a warning to watch all trailers first :asd: and basicly is the anime edited to make it short, following exactly the same time line, with a rock or "epic" song on the background and some phrases in the audio...

fans gonna love you :down:
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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by Spigy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:37 am

Ikore wrote:I always want to post this:.............
It was up, but I didn't post the right way, now you can be happy.
same song, same fonts, same hard cuts over and over again
They are PROMOS as in commercials for people are waiting for the next release. They are not up for discussion, they are just there.
watched first amv that have a warning to watch all trailers first
Wouldn't it make sense to watch all TRAILERS to know the story? Since the whole series could be watched AND understood by someone who doesn't watch the actual anime.
basicly is the anime edited to make it short, following exactly the same time line, with a rock or "epic" song on the background and some phrases in the audio...
That is the whole point :? To show each season and not just flashes of action like most amvs. So once you watch it, you only missed the details. Have you ever watched a movie trailer before?..
fans gonna love you
Fans do love me actually :) Not just because of this series, but all my work. Even if YT browsers are easily pleased, I never even got the odd bad review.

You are the first to post and you met my expectations of this site perfectly. :up:

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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by gotegenks » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:26 pm

Spigy wrote:It was up, but I didn't post the right way, now you can be happy.
you gotta understand, we get quite a few people come here and think they can just post yt links and get comments from us, and it's quite annoying :sweat:
They are PROMOS as in commercials for people are waiting for the next release. They are not up for discussion, they are just there.
everything in the video should be up for discussion, maybe that was a creative decision that you personally won't have any other way, but don't attack people for criticizing it, you'll get hated fast. i can't watch the video you uploaded here but it says "trailer" so i'm assuming it's one of the promos. (i watched a couple on youtube)
Wouldn't it make sense to watch all TRAILERS to know the story? Since the whole series could be watched AND understood by someone who doesn't watch the actual anime.
who in their right mind would watch that if they haven't seen the series? and i don't need to watch all the trailers of batman to understand batman, in fact, i don't need to watch any. :?
That is the whole point :? To show each season and not just flashes of action like most amvs. So once you watch it, you only missed the details. Have you ever watched a movie trailer before?..
if you think you were being original, you really weren't. i couldn't really explain originality perfectly though tbh, i think one of the Org's guides touches on it though.
And i could only follow what my mind filled in from reading random shonen jump chapters and watching so many shippuden videos and seeing the original series.
Fans do love me actually :) Not just because of this series, but all my work. Even if YT browsers are easily pleased, I never even got the odd bad review.
no offense, but people rarely bother to criticize trash on youtube, unless they know the editor personally and have negative opinions and aren't afraid to say them, or the editor is usually awesome and again, the viewer has a negative opinion and isn't afraid to say it. all the comments you get are from the easily pleased yt browsers i'm guessing.
You are the first to post and you met my expectations of this site perfectly. :up:
You are the tenth to post crap like this from youtube since i've been here and you met my opinion on elitist yt douchebags perfectly.
the fact that you expected to be criticized means that you think we're all just a bunch of bitter assholes that criticize videos for a living, or you think your shit actually sucks (which it does)
either way, i think we should be flattered you expected to be criticized, even if you don't agree for stereotypical reasons.

if you ever get good, you might like it here, just stop shooting down criticism unless you have something legitimate to dispute it with, or go back to youtube where people love you.
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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by Spigy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:48 pm

So I am the elitist? and from YT no less? isn't that an oxymoron?


I see now that it was a mistake to come here. Nothing, but unfriendly faces who know nothing of constructive criticism. I am not surprised as it was the same when I first posted in the forum, I only hoped.

I guess, I'll go back to my "crap" and try to please the little people. Have a nice life.

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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by Taite » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:45 pm

I have a fettish for trailers, so I'm going to watch this. Hopefully you haven't decided to leave quite yet, because I'll actually give you crit if you're looking to improve on your trailers. Also, if you're dedicated to becoming a part of the community, then even if you receive flaming or bad crit, just learn to accept it, whether you take the advice or not. Though I must say Ikore's comment on the video was not constructive, though it did point out a few things that I might comment on later. But look at the links he posted, because just like any other site we have rules too.

Before I download the video, let me comment on a few things...
Spigy wrote: They are PROMOS as in commercials for people are waiting for the next release. They are not up for discussion, they are just there.
You need to understand that everything in this world is up for discussion. Go to youtube and look up a trailer. You'll see people post comments. It is therefore up for discussion. Every video is up for discussion. That is why we have comment boxes.
As for this particular site, when you announce a video in this thread, your video will get viewed by people, and you will automatically get crit. About 7 in 10 comments on this site are constructive, or say more things than your generic yt comment (ie: that was cool, gj.)
Wouldn't it make sense to watch all TRAILERS to know the story? Since the whole series could be watched AND understood by someone who doesn't watch the actual anime.
Basically every person who knows what anime even is knows the story of Naruto. But it's up to people whether or not they want to watch the whole "series." I, myself, am not going to. The reason why is you only have one trailer in the catalog, and I don't give crit on videos that are only linked to. (See the rules Ikore mentioned.)
Fans do love me actually :) Not just because of this series, but all my work. Even if YT browsers are easily pleased, I never even got the odd bad review.
That's a pretty stuck-up thing to say. I understand you probably wouldn't have said it if what Ikore said wasn't said, but you don't need to get defensive because of it. It makes you look bad, to be quite frank.
Secondly, people on youtube won't give you constructive criticism/bad reviews. They might say "oh, I didn't like this" or "this sucked." But they won't tell you why. Unlike youtube, when you announce a video here, we give you crit. We try to tell you things that will help you improve. Contrary to popular belief.
However, if you're new, and you step out of line in something, someone is going to tell you straight up here.
You are the first to post and you met my expectations of this site perfectly. :up:
If you had such a crude expectation, then please don't join. That's just rude. Not everyone on this site is elitist, not even Ikore, despite what you think.
I see now that it was a mistake to come here. Nothing, but unfriendly faces who know nothing of constructive criticism. I am not surprised as it was the same when I first posted in the forum, I only hoped.
Oh, the org knows plenty of constructive criticism. Your first impressions are quite odd. Maybe if you spend more time on the site then you'll see that people here do care and give crit quite often, like I mentioned before.
who in their right mind would watch that if they haven't seen the series? and i don't need to watch all the trailers of batman to understand batman, in fact, i don't need to watch any. :?
You don't watch videos of anime you haven't seen? Maybe I'm a rare case, but that's just bizarre. I can't imagine not watching a video just because I haven't seen the anime. Especially if it's a video from someone I've enjoyed a lot of amvs from.


I'll edit this post later and put my crit in a spoiler box (because my post is already quite long.)

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I'll say it again. I'm giving you crit based on your trailer, not the series.

If you're trying to make this look like a real trailer, adding your little intro isn't a good idea. There are editors who do have intros, but when making a trailer they don't usually add it. Trailers are a very different type of amv, and there are many different things to consider when you make them. Do actual trailers have custom made intros? No. It's the generic green thing.

Because this is an amv, not a real trailer, I'm not going to emphasize this point as much. However, when there is a real trailer that has a flash-back/memory in it, it's the normal color of the clip, despite it being a memory. I've never seen it done in real trailer, but I can see grayscale being used.
But like I said, since this is an amv, I don't mind too much.
I'm basing this off :23. It looks fine, because it's an amv, but if you want to make it look like a real trailer, then my suggestion would be no colors, or just grayscale.

Because I've seen the series, I understand what :32 means, when he leaves to go train with Jiraiya. However, It's awfully short, that part. If you want to emphasize the fact that "Now he's stronger" and stuff, I'd make his departure longer. Just a personal preference. Not really necessary.

Judging by your previous posts on the org, your footage is downloaded. However, do you have AMVapp? If you don't, I highly recommend it. It's available here. The reason I mention this is because at :44 (and throughout the rest of the video) you have thin black lines at the top and bottom of the video. To improve the visual quality of it, you would use Avisynth to crop the two lines. You'd have to read the guides to learn how to do this, if you haven't already. There are also other helpful guides available in that link.

I'd suggest that you move your subtitles up a little higher. When you have to draw your eyes down so far to read, sometimes you can only vaguely understand what is really happening.

Because this is part of your "series," I'm going to let :58 slide. In an actual trailer, there'd be no clip of the movie that the director also directed. It'd be mentioned in text, and there'd be 1 to maybe 2 movies mentioned. coming from someone who hasn't seen your other things, I'm going to say I didn't like it.
Also, the subtitle at :58 should have been on the little clip. Even better would be if it was cut out.
And I think you spent too long mentioning what other stuff you made. I just though, "get on with it already!"

Fading, like the ones at 1:10, look odd. It'd look better with just cutting the fading and doing some simple panning on the characters.

I understand that you're trying to introduce all of the characters, but clips like the one at 1:12 and the one of Ino directly before are disrupting to the atmosphere you have going. They're very light scenes, and such dramatic music in the background doesn't fit.

The transition at 1:32 was blech. The bleeding was the bad part. It might have been okay if it was just a regular cross-fade, but even then it's blech. Trailers don't generally have cross-fades.

At 1:35, you started the music at a perfect time. However, the song choice was just awful, imho. Such an overused trailer song should not be used. If you're looking for originality points here, that was not the way to go. It ruined the mood for me.

The fades at 1:42 looked too dark. The fading was fine, but they looked oddly dark. And that matters to someone like me, because in trailers any fading is very soft, for lack of a better word.

There was a glitch at 1:49. You could see it was panning upward, then went down, then went up again.

No need to make the screen smaller at 1:53. Would have been more intense if you let it be.

If you're looking to make your trailer original, I'd probably do something more fancy with the text. I didn't necessarily mind it, but it was just boring.

But I've watched, studied, made, and enjoyed trailers for many years. And it is, technically, when looking at the different aspects of a trailer, very good. I'd like to give major compliments for the audio from Naruto. From the preview, it appeared to be at just the right volume. And it was also wonderfully placed. A lot of people have problems doing this, but you did just fine. I was very glad that that part was done extremely well. Also, the actual audio chosen was well, judging from the subtitles.

For an original trailer (not one synced to a real trailer) it's actually very good. There are some issues, as I mentioned, but I liked it.
Some general comments: I felt it was a tad too long, the song choice could have been a lot better, and some clip choice could be better too. I've seen the series, and I don't know if someone who hasn't seen it can truly understand what was happening. It started off focusing on Naruto, then went in another direction.
It sometimes lacked impact, but that was mostly do to fading and poor scene selection.

Overall, I enjoyed it as a trailer. I thought it was executed well. :up: But in terms of originality and personal enjoyment I receive when watching a trailer for an upcoming movie, it definitely lacked. :down:
I should have put that in an opinion....
It was definitely long, even for my normal crit. But like I said, I love trailers. I can't help myself.
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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by gotegenks » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:04 pm

Taite wrote:You don't watch videos of anime you haven't seen? Maybe I'm a rare case, but that's just bizarre. I can't imagine not watching a video just because I haven't seen the anime. Especially if it's a video from someone I've enjoyed a lot of amvs from.
i'm saying unless they like anime, who's gonna sit through it unless they're bored. And if they like anime, like you said, they're most likely familiar with naruto, lol. I find myself watching tons of videos with anime i haven't seen, mostly because i haven't seen a ton of anime, but yeah. actually, i won't watch an amv if i'm halfway through the series though, because that's how you get spoiled, but if you know nothing about the anime, then it's hard to get spoiled.
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Re: The Naruto Music Video Series [Trailer]

Post by ReggieSmalls » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:23 pm

I have to see to be real I didn't like this you had at the beginning pass your intro but after 48 secs you loss me. I was guessing the full focus was gonna be on Naturo but then you go everywhere. Alot of this video didn't make any sense to me so I don't know what you were trying to do. Also what was with the random Star Wars clip I don't know if you were trying to be funny or something but it went over my head.
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Post by Spigy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:13 pm

Thank you for the reply Taite.

I guess I should explain things a little.

Obviously this trailer is not the main event, nor is it something that I worry about that much in terms of critique. I put it together cause I thought it would be a good idea to introduce my series and also to show the beginning of the story. I counted season 1 from the time the mission is given to rescue Gaara. So anything before needed to be out of the way.

Before I continue let me clear up the PROMO thing. I phrased my answer wrong I admit it. What I wanted to say is not that the promos can't be judged, but that they are there to pass the time and are not so relevant. Each promo from the same season shares the same setup, but I think they serve their purpose. I don't think it is a bad thing, sure it gets repetitive if you watch all of them together, but they were meant for the people who are waiting for the actual trailer and AMV. The idea copied from a respected AMV maker, who also gave me the idea to do this series.

So to show the series, I would have needed to upload something here and I thought the initial trailer should get people to understand what it would be like. I like trailers, I like my series and I like making it, but at this point posting each major release would be pointless. I thought I could get people to comment on the series itself, instead of just worrying about this single trailer.

Which by the way shows what I made as reference. But I thought that was obvious.
The Rivalry was the first Naruto amv I made. So it shows the kind of AMV to expect.
The Avenger is a Naruto trailer based on the MaxPayne Trailer. Shows how I work with trailers.
And the SW MV series. It shows that I made a previous series though on a smaller scale.

The people who subscribed to me would get the reference.

I started with Naruto himself because he is the main character, but overall the whole thing is about the series.


So if you enjoy trailers, I suggest you check out the ones out already for the first 3 seasons. Those actually feel like real trailers.

Other than that, I have the AMVs which I guess you guys wouldn't like since they are long. Plus apparently they are crap as well...

I started making AMVs because I have the natural talent to do so. I don't really take time to understand my programs or work on effects. I don't do 100 masks/minute, I just do it and it feels right.

I also don't consider myself crap and facepalm quite a lot on things I see on the net which people call AMVs, but they have no sense for timing or just put a whole bunch of effects together. I admire when people create things in HD, but I can't and probably won't for a while.
I wasn't stuck up when I said I never got a bad comment. I guess it is because I haven't posted anything on this site before :) There were times when people explained that they didn't like something, but still liked the overall product.

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