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Akira AMV

Post by Earl6282 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:19 pm

Now it's time for a bit of the ol' ultra-violence...
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=81297
It's pretty much just a bunch of scenes with people beating the everloving shit out of other people. Sorry, no deep insights here...
If you're interested, go watch it or I'll slap you in the face with a yellow wombat covered in pop-tart crumbs.
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Post by Earl6282 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:47 pm

Damn, Earl, that AMV sucks
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Post by Sammy » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:52 am

Well, at least the banner in your sig is funny.

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Post by akirahz » Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:57 pm

that video is pretty cool, im a big fan of akira hehe -- i thought the song fit the atmosphere pretty good, i also liked the "Clockwork orange" quotes at the end :) nize vid

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Post by risk one » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:41 pm

Earl6282 wrote:Damn, Earl, that AMV sucks
Well, no. But the video quality did suck a bit. There was a a lot of interlacing (did you IVTC or just deinterlace?), the aspect ratio was off, and there were a lot of compression artifacts. I just saw that you used the cinepack codec to compress. That's very bad. So, Read <a href=http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech31/>ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/
and do what they say. If you won't or can't use DVD footage, you can still get better quality than this at a better filesize. At 66mb your video can look as crisp as a DVD (or a DVD-rip, at least).

I liked the lip-sync at the beginning, it's a shame you didn't follow through on it. There was some nice sync here and there, but as you say, it's just a lot of violence. I would have liked a bit more of a concept or a story.

It's a shame you didn't use the Clockwork Orange dialogue at the end for something. Maybe not full lip synced video, but at least some credits or something.

I should also confess that since I've just done an Akira vid myself, the footage may not have the impact on me that it does on someone who hasn't seen every frame 10 times already. :D
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Post by Earl6282 » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:17 pm

risk one wrote:
Earl6282 wrote:Damn, Earl, that AMV sucks
Well, no. But the video quality did suck a bit. There was a a lot of interlacing (did you IVTC or just deinterlace?), the aspect ratio was off, and there were a lot of compression artifacts. I just saw that you used the cinepack codec to compress. That's very bad. So, Read <a href=http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech31/>ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/
and do what they say. If you won't or can't use DVD footage, you can still get better quality than this at a better filesize. At 66mb your video can look as crisp as a DVD (or a DVD-rip, at least).

I liked the lip-sync at the beginning, it's a shame you didn't follow through on it. There was some nice sync here and there, but as you say, it's just a lot of violence. I would have liked a bit more of a concept or a story.

It's a shame you didn't use the Clockwork Orange dialogue at the end for something. Maybe not full lip synced video, but at least some credits or something.

I should also confess that since I've just done an Akira vid myself, the footage may not have the impact on me that it does on someone who hasn't seen every frame 10 times already. :D
Man, it is seriously impossible to please people on a-m-v.org when it comes to the graphics. It's not enough that the quality is good enough that you can actually see the faces of the people in the anime, nor is it good enough if the quality is just as good as it was from the actual DVD. I mean, it's one hell of a step forward from the quality of my last AMV. Now THAT was god-awful. Yeah, I used Cinepack. That's because it was my only option when I was using iMovie. Most of the other compressions were fine, but in the end, the video would end up really fucking huge. This is seriously the best I could do. And that link you supplied didn't exactly help a lot. Most of the information was about how the codecs work, maybe some history on them, but it provided very little info on file sizes, and pretty much NO direct insight on which codec I should use and what settings to use. God, just give me one codec and one set of settings that is high-quality and small-size and I'll use it for all of my amvs. No need to make me waste time reading about the in-depth aspects of every last codec.

As for the aspect ratio, it didn't appear very off to me. If it is, it's not all that noticible. Faces still seem in-proportion, so it's good.

And yeah, full lip sync WOULD be cool, but if the whole song was lip-synced, there'd be no room for the violence.
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Post by risk one » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:56 pm

Allright, my comments maybe seemed more harsh than I intended them to be. If you are using iMovie, this guide might prove useful:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... orial.html
(these guides are all on the front-page under the button how-to guides.

I'd still recommend browsing through the link that I originally gave you. Digital video is a horribly complicated subject when you're new to it, but learning about it is worth every minute.

If you want a single answer on what you final file should look like, it should be an avi file compressed with xvid (there are other options, but this one is used most, and will stop most people from complaining about the format). The iMovie guide I linked to has information on how to compress to xvid from iMovie.

I understand that comments about video quality and the like are annoying, but I urge you not get discouraged by it all. The only way to get people to pay attention to you editing technique and stop bitching about technical details is to get the technical details up to par (and it is really quite satisfying to produce nice looking videos).
And yeah, full lip sync WOULD be cool, but if the whole song was lip-synced, there'd be no room for the violence.
An understandable decision. :D
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Post by Scintilla » Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:19 am

Earl6282 wrote:And that link you supplied didn't exactly help a lot. Most of the information was about how the codecs work, maybe some history on them, but it provided very little info on file sizes, and pretty much NO direct insight on which codec I should use and what settings to use. God, just give me one codec and one set of settings that is high-quality and small-size and I'll use it for all of my amvs.
As is explained <a href="/guides/avtech/xvid.html">here</a>, the codec and the settings only play a small part in how well you can compress your video -- just as important, or more so, is how well you <i>prepare</i> it for compression (suggested: with AVISynth's excellent postprocessing filters).

Plus, every source will have different issues that require different filtering solutions for optimal results.

Nevertheless, http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html

This seems to be more or less what you were asking for.
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Post by risk one » Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:35 am

Scintilla wrote:(suggested: with AVISynth's excellent postprocessing filters).
That's not going to do him a lot of good on a mac. :)

But there might be similar filters available for the mac. Try reading the page Scintilla provided and doing similar stuff from iMovie (or maybe ffmpegx).
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Post by Earl6282 » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:20 pm

Yep. We don't all use PCs, like some people think.
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