DBZ AMV by VEGETA_LSSJ

macguy · Post by **macguy** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:55 pm

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote: First of all you have to realize that I made this AMV just like I want... I think I balanced this AMV for my taste very good, and that is what I wanted and what I always want...

That's fine but what I am doing here is defending my thesis that it's basically a pointless action video (note that I am not saying worthless). You did a very good action video, that's for sure but it just doesn't have a point. Also, I am trying to give some suggestions for your next AMV if you ever make another one.

Yes it is action like, but I never limit my self about generes...

Okay... Action AMV's don't tell stories about a individual but rather of their battles which is quite similar to what you're doing though.

After million times - It does not have to have storlyine it should only tell about VEGETA's life in genereal...the most important parts...

As I argued before however, I never said it has to have a timeline but that it should have some continuity.

It is flashback, he is remembering NAPPA and NAPPA's intentions and than he remebers

Nappa's intentions? What were his intentions? I didn't notice anything about his intentions in the AMV unless I missed it. Flashback? To me the whole video is a flashback with a bunch of fighting...

VEGETA is the smart one, ya know!

Okay but that takes the problem a step further, why did Vegeta need the power for? Was he not the prince of all saiyans and doesn't need help from anyone? Well Vegeta obviously didn't want him but he did need him for the power...

It is telling story, but only in general, don't you think it would be little stupid to put scene where VEGETA is having a bath or something similar and not so important for his life? though for me everything is important in DBZ
An ultimate goal is well known and it is shown in scenes like fight with GOKU on the begining, but I can't focus whole AMV on any goal!??!? becuase it is in past tense it is almost like big flashback, and that is over! he don't want to be "better than KAKAROT" anymore, now that those all scenes are over, it is past tense he is only summaring his life and speaking of what he lived through...and I wantd to put more problems which he lived through not only one...

Yes it would be silly to put that scene with such a song. Fighting Goku doesn't note the purpose of Vegeta's ultimate goal at all. I don't understand why his ultimate goal being "well-known" means you should just leave it out. Everyone also knows that Vegeta claims to not be beaten and is the prince of all saiyans. Does that mean this AMV shouldn't have been created then? You can't assume things but if you wanted this music video for action then that is fine as long as you can admit that it doesn't have a point besides of course Vegeta claiming to be the one...

Um what? I didn't say you only had to focus on Goku but that you should've retained some continuity. Vegeta always wants to be better than Goku... That's again fine, but remember what I suggested?

For example, you could start with Vegeta's ultimate goal and that is to defeat Goku for what he's been through. Of course first add that talking scene to make it better... This way, people will understand who Vegeta claims to not need! This would make perfect sense as to what he's fighting for and then adding the touch of his past is great!

Booooy! This actually makes me happy! all this text because of my AMV man! this is great!

but I just think it is good enough balanced action with VEGETA's life telling......

Yeah but it doesn't really tell anything except for telling us who he didn't need and committing self destruction etc. It's better to not just focus entirely on action but also give more details about Vegeta's life in regards to his ultimate goal. Again, Vegeta killed Nappa because of Goku...He sacrificed his life because he wanted to be like Goku in some way as being the good guy...He wanted power because he wanted to defeat Goku. You don't have to repeat the goal because giving information about his past is good as well but doesn't mean anything.

Hehe well I applaud you for taking this the good way. Some people would probably get angry at me for expressing my thoughts.

NS · Post by NS » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:57 pm

Jesus christ LSSJ... He's giving his input, and he's right. Just be quiet and take it in stride. Work on another vid maybe.

NS · Post by NS » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:13 pm

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:I don't understand why are you offensive now? I never said that this is deepest AMV...!?!? man I really thought I behaved correct...I just CAN'T explain some things, especially with my bad english.
If this is for you just one mindless action AMV with some lyrical sync for me it is not surely. I understand you, but you must speek for yourself...

Here's the point. we get that you think it's not, but that's exactly what it IS.. So in other words, what you tried to do with this vid, you didn't do right. That's all.

VEGETA_LSSJ · Post by **VEGETA_LSSJ** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:37 am

Here's the point. we get that you think it's not, but that's exactly what it IS.. So in other words, what you tried to do with this vid, you didn't do right. That's all.

What I tried to do I done absolutely 100% successfully for what I WANTED, any other way it wold be probably worst then what I WANTED...
My goal is to make my vid in my style, not to make it in the way that everyone will like it...And I am quite aware of that there are many ppl who will dislike my vid.
I think it is clear now...

-GfN- · Post by **-GfN-** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:07 am

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:What I tried to do I done absolutely 100% successfully for what I WANTED, any other way it wold be probably worst then what I WANTED...

Now, that sentence has as much substance as if you were saying "If Nature isn't on, nature is off.".

anyway, 3/10 and wrrrryyyy more than one minute intro and credits?

~Jannis

Zero Link · Post by **Zero Link** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:13 am

Well just because you done something you wanted to do doesn't mean its right? :/

NS · Post by NS » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:20 am

yah, Sure you can do something how you want.

Here, What I want to do is make a 5 minute amv right? I'm gonna use a linkin park song and have a clip of master roshi just standing still the whole five minutes.This is what i WANT to do, And I am very capable of doing it, But would it Be entertaining to watch? No. Do yo uget what i'm saying now?

macguy · Post by **macguy** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:34 am

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:And I am quite aware of that there are many ppl who will dislike my vid.
I think it is clear now...

I know how it is to have release something you worked hard on but only to find that there are critiques. I thought my first AMV was good enough but in the end, I fought my stubbornness and learned to accept error. For an action, lyric sync and lip sync you did well in but there's always cons which I think you should accept. Everyone can improve on something.

Sure, you completed what you wanted to do which is great but there's also the other things which you didn't do well or not so well. Please don't get the wrong impression that we hate it or anything...It's just that it is pointless.

VEGETA_LSSJ · Post by **VEGETA_LSSJ** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:19 am

@SSJ3 Son Jp

Well just because you done something you wanted to do doesn't mean its right? :/

Yes for me it mean it is RIGHT FOR ME, and that is most important for me.

Here, What I want to do is make a 5 minute amv right? I'm gonna use a linkin park song and have a clip of master roshi just standing still the whole five minutes.This is what i WANT to do, And I am very capable of doing it, But would it be entertaining to watch? No. Do yo uget what i'm saying now?

If you REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY wanted to do that, and that is entertaining to YOU, than you did EXCELENT work! way to go! do YOU get it now?
It seems that you just can't accept the fact that I am satisfied with my AMV pretty much, not perfectly but almost...
Almost everything is subjective...

I know how it is to have release something you worked hard on but only to find that there are critiques. I thought my first AMV was good enough but in the end, I fought my stubbornness and learned to accept error. For an action, lyric sync and lip sync you did well in but there's always cons which I think you should accept. Everyone can improve on something.

Sure, you completed what you wanted to do which is great but there's also the other things which you didn't do well or not so well. Please don't get the wrong impression that we hate it or anything...It's just that it is pointless.

I can't accept error that is not error for me, because I made this vid totally in my taste, If someone said - "hey! on the credits that last scene where everyone shoots waves, the scene with GOHAN is little bit messy with video quality it seems that you set the image pan or something..." I'd accept that as an error. But those things you were telling me about is just another version of my video in your taste, and for me this is nearly best way, why I should change it against my taste...

I accept that you think it would be better to do this and to do that, but it does not have to mean that f it is NOT like that, that then it is WRONG, there is no WRONG or RGIHT for me...it have only wrong in my opinion and right in my opinion, at least in AMVs case, or soe other creativities.

Do you all understand now? Tastes...we are all different...and that is actually good thing...

kickass331 · Post by **kickass331** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:32 am

VEGETA_LSSJ wrote:@SSJ3 Son Jp
Well just because you done something you wanted to do doesn't mean its right? :/
Yes for me it mean it is RIGHT FOR ME, and that is most important for me.

Here, What I want to do is make a 5 minute amv right? I'm gonna use a linkin park song and have a clip of master roshi just standing still the whole five minutes.This is what i WANT to do, And I am very capable of doing it, But would it be entertaining to watch? No. Do yo uget what i'm saying now?
If you REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY wanted to do that, and that is entertaining to YOU, than you did EXCELENT work! way to go! do YOU get it now?
It seems that you just can't accept the fact that I am satisfied with my AMV pretty much, not perfectly but almost...
Almost everything is subjective...

I know how it is to have release something you worked hard on but only to find that there are critiques. I thought my first AMV was good enough but in the end, I fought my stubbornness and learned to accept error. For an action, lyric sync and lip sync you did well in but there's always cons which I think you should accept. Everyone can improve on something.

Sure, you completed what you wanted to do which is great but there's also the other things which you didn't do well or not so well. Please don't get the wrong impression that we hate it or anything...It's just that it is pointless.
I can't accept error that is not error for me, because I made this vid totally in my taste, If someone said - "hey! on the credits that last scene where everyone shoots waves, the scene with GOHAN is little bit messy with video quality it seems that you set the image pan or something..." I'd accept that as an error. But those things you were telling me about is just another version of my video in your taste, and for me this is nearly best way, why I should change it against my taste...

I accept that you think it would be better to do this and to do that, but it does not have to mean that f it is NOT like that, that then it is WRONG, there is no WRONG or RGIHT for me...it have only wrong in my opinion and right in my opinion, at least in AMVs case, or soe other creativities.

Do you all understand now? Tastes...we are all different...and that is actually good thing...

I agree with this post...

People like different things... And IMO this was a great video, the lip syncing was perfect, and all of you think it sucks just because you think DBZ is stupid... If you don't like it then don't download it 'nuff said...