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Post by Tri-kun » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:45 pm

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OMG i finally finished it @.@ anyhow... thanks to Lok who helped me throughout this whole things and thanks to all of the EGP members that edited for this. now i'm done =D

although... i think i have to re-render... i made a mistake on one of the tracks = =;
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Post by Kalium » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:13 pm

Watching this video is an exercise in contrasts. Not due to the sources, although there is that. Mostly due to the editing changes.

Track 1 is very tightly timed with very technical editing.

Track 2 is much looser, and rather jarring against track 1.

Track 3 feels like someone just now figuring out how to use a few fairly basic effects - and then abusing them to maintain synch.

Track 4 has major video quality issues. That aside, it also has lyric sync in addition to basic beatsync, and I have to appreciate that.

Track 5 is a very mixed bag. I spotted several orphan frames. Technical issues aside, the editing was horrendously inconsistent. When a segment was sync'ed, it was done well. Then it would be followed by a long segment, and throw beatsync out the window.

Track 6 is better. Mostly solid editing, if perhaps a bit too busy in spots. The white flashes were probably not needed, since the guitar line was plainly the main instrument being worked with.

Track 7 is also good, with a few caveats. The crossfades feel almost like stumbling over something. The song's going plenty fast, and so is most of the editing. Most. A few of the fades struck me as off by a few frames, too.

Track 8 I will admit I was looking forward to. See Saber in the banner is what caught my attention for this video. And damn am I glad I did. The approach is unique and interesting, and I may have to borrow from it in the future. That said, what the fsck is with the rectangles? They're just so random and out of place.

Track 9 had pretty much the same issues as track 7. Consistency. It felt like it was stuttering around.

Overall, it wasn't bad. It wasn't exactly a smash hit, but it had its high points. Tracks 8, 1, and 4 in particular.

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Post by Tri-kun » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:20 pm

thanks for the input the other members can say they're words too so i'll just talk about my tracks.

Track 7 and 9.

hmm you're correct i seem to have trouble with consistancy i guess i did miss a few fades.

track 9 i know also had the same problem.

as for track 4 the quality problem is my fault the editor had nothing to do with it i'm working to get it fixed

anyhow thanks again i'm sure we got an overview of what's right and wrong about this one
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Post by omegaevolution » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:16 pm

Well I kinda guessed who edited each track with just watching :P. Since I know each other's editing style and such.

One thing I want to point out as a general issue. This song is in the fast paced category and a lot of the tracks kinda draged here, not keeping up with the song and making some serious synch errors that kinda killed the flow in some of the tracks (more info below).
I will break it up in segments as well.

Track 1: it was fairly obvious Lok did this one :P. IMO the best track of the MEP, great starter, it had what it needs to hook up someone to keep watching. Only bad thing was the quality with the Hajime no Ippo footage (and kinda felt out of place comparing it to the other sources). Editing wise: was really good IMO.

Track 2: mmmmm I remember beta testing this track months ago. Can't remember what I actually said to Antoine, but he lacked synching and speed, lyric synch is not enough with this kind of songs.

Track 3: I had my doubts with this one, it started good, it synched what it needed to synch but it got a bit repetitive later on.

Track 4: This could have been clearly my second fav track. Hope you can fix that issue with the quality O.O. Editing wise this was good as well IMO.

Track 5: My general issue pointed out in the begining of my post was mostly because of this track. I mean it was like this: "cool, it started fast as it needed" then "wtf? why you slowed down?" then "good again" then "slowed down again killing the flow" and so on... as Kalium said, it needed consistency.

Track 6: good track, kinda dragged down when the guitar started. But the solid editing of Shouri is well showed here. When the guitar started is when my complain on keeping up with the song appears too. Other than that, nice track :up:

Transition between Track 6 and 7: ouch... that didn't fit IMO

Track 7: I really couldn't indentify Tri-kun's editing style here. No offence but thats not the Tri-kun I know lol. Why you missed the drum beats at the begining? cause thats what it seemed like you were trying to synch. The rest looked like out of flow.

Track 8: gah why Zero Maverick still uses those rectangles X__X? here is the only track that, even though it wasn't fast paced, it seemed like it was in some harmony with the song... except for some beats that screamed to be synched to. Other than that, good track.

Track 9: much better than your other, this has the Tri-mark in it :P. Had the same problem with the beats at the begining as track 7. Subaru using the chip scene was way too long. The rest looked fine. I would have liked more hard synch in the end, but meh :P.

Overall, good for a first Studio MEP. Its really cool to see how different the editing is as a whole in the MEP (either good or bad). But yeah, needed some more techincal work and some more smashing power if you can call it that :P.

3.5/5
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Post by Tri-kun » Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:38 pm

i think i missed a few of the beats = =' i guess i made a mistake, yea... my flow needs a bit of work hehe i'll work on it thanks for the feedback Omega =D
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Post by AGF-Antoine » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:35 am

Well, lets talk about some general stuff of the MEP. I will start with my own track.

Aside from the fact I'm the founder of the group I'm not nearly the best editor of the group. Especially considering action synch I have lots to learn. Currently I'm training majorly to improve my skills and be a more worthy founder. In any case, I felt like going for lyric synch here and well thats the fun part of doing a MEP, seeing different kinds of editing in a single vid.

Of all the tracks, the best one is track 4(skills compared to experience). As people might notice in Lexica-chan's profile, her experience before the MEP is limited to 2 miniprojects. Ofcourse when you look at general quality then Lok pwns the entire group. I'm proud to have helped him improve so much, which resulted in the creation of Control(and yes, I was the beta tester for it).

In any case, Lexica-chan and exedata are rookies to doing AMV's and I think they did the best job of all of us. For my own part, I have been doing AMV's since December 2004, but I dropped making AMV's for 2 years and mainly adviced other AMV'ers. Major examples of this are OMEGA(omegaevolution) and Lok(Lok1990). So yea, I'm training now and you guys can expect my next projects to be way better.

Enough ranting for now :wink:

Thanks for the detailed reviews till now :D


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Post by Lok1990 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:05 am

OMG it's finally here after the big delay, may post an opinion to our very first mep later :D
Omegaevolution wrote:Only bad thing was the quality with the Hajime no Ippo footage (and kinda felt out of place comparing it to the other sources)
agree :oops:
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Post by Oli.C » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:50 pm

Good stuff! :up:

4/5 + Op left too!

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