Evangelion Episode 23 Director's Cut proves the following...

[Kracus]

3I has not ended at that point though. Misato can still see the lights as she floats away. We have no idea what happened after she left.

That's true, I pointed it out just because she was obviously on solid land and something had to be destroyed for her to then be out on the ocean.

I would like to find the quote about everything being destroyed and who says it. Cause it could be a point of a government coverup. Something could have survived, that being Adam in the state we see him in.

[Tab.]

Well it's not likely that he exploded and as a result of the explosion shrunk to an embryo. Simple logic and blatant statements from the series say that when the DNA extraction and data collection was sufficient, Gendo's team left the Katsuragi research team to be blown to hell.
Remember that the government story was a meteor, which would not have included destroying all life to the molecular level. Quite the opposite, actually. It was an observation of Fuyutsuki, who was adamantly opposed to the secrecy and coverups surrounding the incident. I believe the specific statement was made during his trip with Gendo to the Antarctic. During the "this place used to be a continent" discussion. May have been DC only.

Also, it can be assumed that Lillith was inside the geofront when it was discovered. In retrospect, I believe the geofront was excavated after 2000, so the argument about Adam preceding Lillith would be accurate.

[the Black Monarch]

Don't forget that Rei herself says she is the third....

Actually, the line is more like "I think I might be the third one"

It reminds me of Zack's line from the old Carmen San Diego cartoon, "I'm beginning to think you're almost as smart as everyone says you think you are"

Shinji had no idea Rei was a clone when Ritsuko said that. Take things in the context in which it was said. Do you think Ritsuko would really reveal what Rei was until the oppertune moment?... That would spoil a major spoiler.

Regardless, Ritsuko said Rei was born. This is no game of semantics; the choice of words was completely incompatible with "pulled out of a tank of LCL".

That is speculation. Misato survived only because her father made it so. He wasn't destroyed at the molecular level when he did so obviously. But we have no idea what happened to them after she started drifting in the ocean.

Regardless, Second Impact did not vaporize every living thing on the continent.

Didn't you read what I quoted a few posts back? For someone who is so picky about the writer's choice of words used to build up suspense for spoilers, you certainly like to disregard quotes actually used to reveal spoilers.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that no one ever says Unit 01 was made from Lillith.

Yet you don't believe mother akagi is in 00 because she killed herself by jumping to her doom. Something most sane people don't do either.

Most sane people also don't get to high-five Mike Shinoda, but just because I did it doesn't mean I'm insane. The elder Dr. Akagi was sane when she jumped. A little unstable, but not completely out of touch with reality like Asuka's mom.

Born = created

That is where your logic begins to fail. Born != created.

There are many version of the dialogue, it would be best to get the exact japanese wording and translate it yourself.

Here's another version ( a bit different ):

I use the Director's Cut translations, which are based on the Literal Translation Project, widely considered to be the most accurate translations available.

hmm, what if at the test site in Antartica they found Adam somewhat like Lilith is in the series and they did experiments and caused a similar instrumentality, that brought forth a being of light that destroyed them. The same thing happens again, but this time its lilith and instead of destroying, a recreation process happens... Technically, Adam is not a being of light. That is not a distinction given to him.

Gendo explicitly states in episode 21 that the Giant of Light IS Adam. It's when he's bringing Fuyutsuki on board.

So when Eva 00/Rei lights up and reforms before she blows, maybe there is something left of her.

There is definitely something left of her - we see a dark, fuzzy close-up of her arm in Unit 00's entry plug when Akagi Jr. goes to "rescue" her (translation: rescue the plug, destroy the survivor)

Mother Akagi didn't blow chibi Rei up, just choked her to death.

Choked her, but not to death. When deprived of oxygen, you lose consciousness a few minutes before you actually die. Naoko would have to keep the pressure on for a while after Rei went totally limp in order to kill her.

Put down the crack pipe and watch the series again, because it was a direct quote.

Episode, time, character, line.

Well it's not likely that he exploded and as a result of the explosion shrunk to an embryo.

Why the hell not? They were doing all sorts of ungodly things to him... who's to say one such experiment wouldn't cause him to revert to embryonic form, with the excess mass being converted into energy? BIG BOOM!

Simple logic and blatant statements from the series say that when the DNA extraction and data collection was sufficient, Gendo's team left the Katsuragi research team to be blown to hell.

That much is actually true.

[Tab.]

Well skipping through I managed to find "It is an Eva, made from Adam by man." in episode 21 at 14:59 chapter 2 of the first Renewal DVD. The Evas were definitely produced from Adam and not Lillith, as Milo's been trying to argue. As for Eva 02, I'm not sure at the moment.

Here's the quote you've all been waiting for:
Episode 21, 12:14 into the 2nd chapter on the first Renewal DVD. Fuyutsuki speaking internally.
Dub:
"The entire area's been affected. Altered atmospheric composition, the complete extermination of all life forms down to the microorganic level, traces of an enormous cavern directly below the blast center, and then there's this giant of light... This whole incident is mysterious."

Sub:
"We can't conclude our findings for our investigation lightly either. A completely localized change to the atmospheric elements. The thorough extermination of all life, including microorganisms. The traces of an enormous cavern directly below the blast center. And this giant of light. This incident is full of mysteries."

[Tab.]

Renewal

Director's Cut* -_-
I only wish.

[Cyanna]

Didn't you read what I quoted a few posts back? For someone who is so picky about the writer's choice of words used to build up suspense for spoilers, you certainly like to disregard quotes actually used to reveal spoilers.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that no one ever says Unit 01 was made from Lillith.

Again.

The promised time has come. With the Lance of Longinus now lost, complementation using Lilith is impossible. Our only hope is to proceed with EVA-01, Lilith's sole clone.

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[Kracus]

Yet you don't believe mother akagi is in 00 because she killed herself by jumping to her doom. Something most sane people don't do either.

Most sane people also don't get to high-five Mike Shinoda, but just because I did it doesn't mean I'm insane. The elder Dr. Akagi was sane when she jumped. A little unstable, but not completely out of touch with reality like Asuka's mom.

what part of the series are you getting that from or are you just pulling that from your ass?

Born = created

That is where your logic begins to fail. Born != created.

example, I provided a definition, you have provided nothing

There are many version of the dialogue, it would be best to get the exact japanese wording and translate it yourself.

Here's another version ( a bit different ):

I use the Director's Cut translations, which are based on the Literal Translation Project, widely considered to be the most accurate translations available.

I didn't post the dialogue I was watching to discredit yours, just provide another very close and similar translation from the Death part of Death & Rebirth. I have the uncut version and I know what it says

hmm, what if at the test site in Antartica they found Adam somewhat like Lilith is in the series and they did experiments and caused a similar instrumentality, that brought forth a being of light that destroyed them. The same thing happens again, but this time its lilith and instead of destroying, a recreation process happens... Technically, Adam is not a being of light. That is not a distinction given to him.

Gendo explicitly states in episode 21 that the Giant of Light IS Adam. It's when he's bringing Fuyutsuki on board.

first notice the 'what if' I added. Yes Gendo says Giant of Light because that is what he saw. Because at that time he was lit up. But Rei and Lilith do the same thing. So Adam is not the only one who can be considered the Giant of Light.

So when Eva 00/Rei lights up and reforms before she blows, maybe there is something left of her.

There is definitely something left of her - we see a dark, fuzzy close-up of her arm in Unit 00's entry plug when Akagi Jr. goes to "rescue" her (translation: rescue the plug, destroy the survivor)

I was saying that to throw away what you said but to add to what you said for those who didn't accept what you said

Mother Akagi didn't blow chibi Rei up, just choked her to death.

Choked her, but not to death. When deprived of oxygen, you lose consciousness a few minutes before you actually die. Naoko would have to keep the pressure on for a while after Rei went totally limp in order to kill her.

Again, where in the series did you see that? You need proof. I'm not advocating that Rei has died three times but you need actual proof or you can't go around saying everyone else is wrong.

[Kracus]

Didn't you read what I quoted a few posts back? For someone who is so picky about the writer's choice of words used to build up suspense for spoilers, you certainly like to disregard quotes actually used to reveal spoilers.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that no one ever says Unit 01 was made from Lillith.

Again.

The promised time has come. With the Lance of Longinus now lost, complementation using Lilith is impossible. Our only hope is to proceed with EVA-01, Lilith's sole clone.

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Doesn't that also support the theory that 00 is a clone of Adam?

[Kracus]

here is something else rei says.

*episode were 01 eats the age*
*Rei sortie with bomb in her arm and charges at the age*
Rei: No Problem. Let me go. I don't mind, even if I die--- there is another.
Akagi jr: She's going to blow herself up.
Gendo: Rei!

How did she even get out with out them sending her? Take what rei says how you like. Gendo's response is interesting though, if rei can die and be brought back then why would he be worried? Also, Rei does say something like "I think I am the third" but that could only be because she can't remember, not because there haven't been (possibly) others.

I'm not sure if the question is still open about who the evas are cloned from is open, but another note to mark is the asuka rape scene. What is so special about 01 that they wouldn't send 01 one out but 00.

[Kracus]

here is something else rei says.

*episode were 01 eats the age*

wow I don't know why I typed age, Angel.