Gundam Seed

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:14 pm

Its defintily worth seeing you get lots of lacus action it just leaves you wanting more however which hey its coming.

Mr Oni

Chrisy · Post by **Chrisy** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:24 pm

I love gundam seed, and i've only seen the first ten episodes

Chrisy · Post by **Chrisy** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:25 pm

so it would seem I found another Lacus fan

DTJB · Post by **DTJB** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:01 pm

jethropr wrote:y? it's not THAT bad, it could just have been better.

I'll certainly give it a shot at some point, but I'm not going to keep my hopes up. Oh, by the way Oni, Lacus was okay, but Cagalli was a lot better in my book.

sheikplayer123 · Post by **sheikplayer123** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:56 pm

I was immensly(sp?) happy with Gundam Seed. But I am still enmeshed in Gundam Wing's spell and consider it the best of all Gundam series.

Xarathion · Post by **Xarathion** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:34 pm

Was Seed/Seed Destiny enjoyable? Yes.
Was the plot and potential ruined by bad writing? Yes

Was just browsing through this thread, so I don't remember who said it, but the series did indeed have the potential to be a whole lot better.

Mecha are much harder to draw and animate than normal people, so I can see the reason why so many of the scenes were re-used in fights. But did there really have to be that many launch scenes in every single episode? Did we really have to watch the damn Impulse Gundam assemble itself every single time? (Seed Destiny)

Fukada, the director, really ruined the potential of these two series. I liked the whole Natural/Coordinator conflict much more than the original Normal/New-Type conflict in the UC timeline.

SPOILER WARNING:

My Pros:

-Awesome mecha. While a lot of the ideas may have been taken from other Gundam series, they were combined to make cool mobile suits. (my favorite was the Saviour. Freedom comes in second)

-Top notch animation. While the computer graphics looked kinda cheezy at first, I got used to them. Could also be because they got better at it as the series went on.

-Music. Best of any Gundam series.

-Initial Plot. It introduced a lot of interesting ideas. Naturals/Coordinators, that space whale thing, N-Jammers, (as opposed to the confusing Minovsky particle in the original series), Kira's background, the Alliance Extended, and several other little things.

My Cons:

-Ending Story. Fukada wasted it. Whatever happened to the whole thing with the space whale? I want that resolved, or atleast more info given about it. Kira/Archange/Orbl and his/their ideals. What a bunch of carebears that get in the way and make no sense. People with those types of ideals are not supposed to win. Also, not to mention the craptastic ending to Seed Destiny. I've seen Final Plus, but it's still subpar.

-The X20a Strike Freedom. Waaaay too powerful. Dual combine-able beam rifles, rail guns, stomach mega particle cannon, DRAGOONs, beam shields, and super speed and manueverability? Way too unrealistic, especially when you compare it to the updates Athrun got in his Justice, which is almost nothing. Kira is practically invincible with that.

-Shinn. What a crappy protagonist. He became bearable once he and Athrun teamed up, but after they split, he was so stupid again. An insubordinate, naive jackass doesn't deserve such a fine mobile suit as the Destiny. And did you ever notice that the Impulse can be repaired no matter how bad the damage to it is, yet the Saviour couldn't be repaired? Shinn went through 2 chest fliers, 2 Force Silhouettes, and the Sword Silhouette just to kill the Freedom. Why couldn't the mechanics have used the spare parts from all those extra peices to repair the Saviour? Fukada, you're very inconsistent.

-Heine (his fate). He had so much potential, not to mention a cool mobile suit. A truly strong character, unlike Shinn. But Fukada had to kill him off.

-Kira. Go away and cry in a hole somewhere. Cagalli failed to do her job, don't make the situation worse. Because of you Heine died and the Saviour was trashed.

Have I thought way too much about this? Maybe, but that's what happens when you make an AMV on a series and have to watch it through like 3 times looking for scenes.

O-Kagachi · Post by **O-Kagachi** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:44 pm

All that the saviour was good for was transforming and flying away like a pussy.

Xarathion · Post by **Xarathion** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:59 pm

Nah, that's what Athrun used it for.

It had two huge guns, the beam rifle, and 2 beam sabers. Not to mention wings and speed. Was sorta like a mini Freedom, if you think about it. Atleast, that's my take on it.

underworld_princess · Post by **underworld_princess** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:36 am

Gundam Seed or Gundam Wing.......i can't really decide, except for the fact that both animes had their pros and cons... I mean, Gundam Wing, the action was good and the sense of fighting for Justice and Freedom was veryapparent. As well as the fact that out of so many people in the Earthsphere, there were only five teenagers, who were actually fighting for that dream. However, the story between the characters were a little fuzzy. Like the fact that Heero and Duo might be into each other, personally, I think Heero was sort of interested in Relena.....except a lot of people hate her for some reason. And Duo seems pretty happy with Hilde around...so I don't quite understand why it would look like Heero and Duo were a couple off screen (don't get me wrong....i think that fanfics featuring them as a pairing are fine, but sometimes when referred back to the anime, i get a little defensive on who they're really with)

As for Gundam Seed, is has a really good plot, and the action's good.. Except for the fact that Kira goes around with a whole bunch of other girls before he ends up with Lacus. Sort of gives me the impression that he sleeps around. First it was Flay, then it's Cagalli(before he knew she was his sister) and then he falls for his best friend's fiancee..........it's just really confusing.

But all in all, i find that Gundam Seed and Gundam Wing are both good......in their own individual way.......and yeah, i too am still caught in the spell set by Gundam Wing....but Gundam Seed is slowly breaking through the barrier^_^

sheikplayer123 · Post by **sheikplayer123** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:08 pm

i dunno what Wing does that has me so enmeshed except that possibly it was my first true anime i watched inscessently (in other words obsessively). Seed was good but i just couldnt take that Kira had a thing for his sister! *shivers* thats screwed up, badly!

Plus as was stated earlier Kira got all this power and Athrun got nothing in terms of upgrades. What the hell! Athrun actually was the most stableminded of the characters on Seed. Also another question, did Lacus EVER seem the type to bring about a rebellion in early episodes? To me i thought it was kinda thrown in. But alas i never saw the complete end ;_; i think im afraid to watch endings, i get kinda choked up ya know? Well later

Dan