Evangelion Episode 23 Director's Cut proves the following...

Cyanna · Post by **Cyanna** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:42 am

Vlad86 wrote:Eva3

They say that because Eva 3 didn't have a soul inside it, it was taken over by Bardiel. Unit 4 was destroyed. But I can't explain the mass prods.

One common trait among the Eva kids is that by the age of 14, none of them have mothers. Kensuke doesn't have a mom (and I'm pretty sure Toji didn't either). At least Shinji and Asuka still have their mothers protecting them in the Eva. Rei, who was created and has no biological mother has to put up with a soul that hates her (assuming that Naoko IS in Unit 0)

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:31 pm

A lot of people are saying Naoko's soul is in unit 00. I have to call BS here. It's a known fact that Naoko took a swan dive into the concrete in central dogma. She wasn't in some accident inside an eva or anything. I personally don't think Unit-00 has a soul inside of it.

HeartbreakerByZep · Post by **HeartbreakerByZep** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:04 pm

Note that it really doesn't require, drugs, depression, stress, or any combination of the three to get ideas on one's head.

Anyway the Naoko - Evangelion 00 theory has long since been debunked by many people through debates about the evidence. I myself can't figure out for the life of me how Rei was created or the like, but I've been convinced that it is Rei's soul in Evangelion 00 as well. One thing I remember is that, remember the episode with the cross-synch tests, Eva 01 smelled like Ikari, and Eva 00 smelled like Ayanami. Since it's shown that the Evangelion's soul has profound mental affect on the entry plug, it seems logical to assume that the smell comes from Yui in 01's case, and Rei in 00's case.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:33 pm

Tab. wrote:Second, the Adam embryo was taken with Gendo and his crew when they left Antarctica a day before second impact. It's said later that second impact was engineered by the project in order to 'minimize the damage', presumably to prevent the angels from awakening and finding Adam.

Um, where are you getting that?

And if that's the case, then why doesn't Adam show up until Kaji personally delivers him to Gendo in episode 8?

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:11 pm

Scintilla wrote:Um, where are you getting that?

And if that's the case, then why doesn't Adam show up until Kaji personally delivers him to Gendo in episode 8?

There were no survivors of second impact except Misato, so there would have been no way to retrieve the embryo later. Adam's DNA would have to have been taken back with Gendo's crew, which did leave the rest for dead a day early.

I'm not sure if I read that somewhere or if it was just a common sense deduction.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:32 pm

Actually... Kaji transports the Adam embryo to Gendo in episode 8 i believe...

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:41 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Actually... Kaji transports the Adam embryo to Gendo in episode 8 i believe...

Yeah, so? How did the german scientists get the DNA? They definitely didn't go back to antarctica and find a little box floating around in the water :|

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:45 pm

Tab. wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Actually... Kaji transports the Adam embryo to Gendo in episode 8 i believe...
Yeah, so? How did the german scientists get the DNA? They definitely didn't go back to antarctica and find a little box floating around in the water

But if Gendo and company were the ones who took Adam before Second Impact, then wouldn't he have it already and therefore not need Kaji to deliver it?

HeartbreakerByZep · Post by **HeartbreakerByZep** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:48 pm

Scintilla wrote:
Tab. wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Actually... Kaji transports the Adam embryo to Gendo in episode 8 i believe...
Yeah, so? How did the german scientists get the DNA? They definitely didn't go back to antarctica and find a little box floating around in the water
But if Gendo and company were the ones who took Adam before Second Impact, then wouldn't he have it already and therefore not need Kaji to deliver it?

I'm not expert, I could be missing the point, but couldn't Gendou have had the embryo, and given it to Kaji for him to carry it until they where sure Tokyo 3 was safe enough for it? After all, had olé Yui not intervened in Episode 1, and had Adam been in Tokyo 3, and had Sachiel found Adam, that would not have been good for Gendou.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:00 pm

Production of eva 02, perhaps? There's a multitude of reasons the embryo could have been transferred or held in Germany, with all that went on between Gehirn/Nerv and Seele in the 15 years between Adam and Sachiel.