Instrumental Anime Project

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:39 pm

Jasper-Isis wrote:

Great!

Maverick-Rubik · Post by **Maverick-Rubik** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:44 pm

I don't think it would be easy fitting something that big into a banner without making it illegible.

jasper-isis · Post by **jasper-isis** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:51 pm

Maverick-Rubik wrote:I don't think it would be easy fitting something that big into a banner without making it illegible.

Haha, yeah, I thought it'd be cool as an off-site banner or announcement poster or something.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:45 pm

Maybe for the thread in the annoncements forum. I'd do it if I had the software. Maybe I can poke around and find some free/shareware but I kind of doubt it.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:38 pm

I still can't seem to get the files to join without experiencing playback problems on Windows. Re-encoding the joined version worked, in terms of having no audio dropout, but the extra generation is noticable, especially in the videos that already had gone through two or more generations of lossy encoding (which is about half of them).

Since, given the amount of time I have to spend on my Software Engineering project, I probably won't be able to find a solution any time soon, I'll be encoding each segment as a DV file, and sending those on to Bakadeshi to take care of any videos he doesn't recieve a HuffYUV of, as well as all of the extras. DV is far better standardized and more universal than even MPEG2, so I have to imagine he has some way of transcoding those to the VOB files needed for the DVD. DV is also encoded at a constant bitrate of 25 Mibps, which about three times that commonly seen on commercial DVD masters, making it a far less lossy intermediate. I'll be burning those files to CDs and sending them through the mail.

I'll also take those DV files to the school's Mac lab from time to time, so I can give up on trying to find a way to produce the online distribution myself - and just try to splice everything together in Final Cut. I can't make any guarantees, however, about when I'll be able to do this, as the editing labs are usually rather crowded and the actual film students take priority over me for use of the equipment.

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You have no idea how dissapointed I am that I didn't have this done by New Year's. That's what happens when I go on vacation expecting to get things done, while simultaniously forgetting just how time-consuming the holidays can be. Or when I have to devote the bulk of my attention to another project. Or when I catch the flu and spend three days on highly productive activities like sleeping and watching old M.A.S.H. re-runs. Not that any of this would bother me, except that I keep getting your hopes up about release dates and then failing to follow through. I'd gotten in a bit over my head, and it's taken this long to finally admit to myself that I'm not able to solve the technical mystery I've blindly run into. So I'm going to work around it, and do what I can to wrap up the little bit that's left, rather than spending another three months looking for the best way to fix my mistakes.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:33 am

rose, try creating a new topic in audio help about joining audio in audio help. maybe some other people who have worked on projects with multiple audio sources can help out.

don't worry too much about how long this is taking. it would have been worse to release the video before fixing the bugs we're running into. and i've been completely unproductive myself, even though i was planning to take advantage of the holiday to make an amv hell clip, and then start on convention vids.

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] · Post by **Bakadeshi [AuN Studios]** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:42 pm

rose, what happens if you do the join via a lossless video codec (such as Huffy) and then reencode the final version to divx? so theres little to no loss quality wise in the second gen encode? Was there some obsticle in doing it this way?

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:48 pm

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] wrote: Was there some obsticle in doing it this way?

The one I can think of is probably disc space - wouldn't it take a huge amount of space for huffies that are what, 45-60 minutes long?

In any case, don't worry rose - no need to be too apologetic. Quality is of the essence to me, not time - so long as it's reasonable. And considering the kinds of things you have to deal with, it's still more than reasonable to wait a bit.

Maverick-Rubik · Post by **Maverick-Rubik** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:44 pm

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] wrote:rose, what happens if you do the join via a lossless video codec (such as Huffy) and then reencode the final version to divx? so theres little to no loss quality wise in the second gen encode? Was there some obsticle in doing it this way?

There shouldn't be a problem, but if you plan have audio slipping between joined huffies, you gotta make a master audio track arranged in Premiere (or whatever program). I remember on my last video I had joined 3 huffies together in order to smooth things differently (2 of the segments had noise, the other in the middle was clean- and I made huffies instead of just keeping the .avs since I didn't want to have to wait to refilter every time I tried to encode), and when I joined them with their original audio (Direct Stream Copy), they would skip once they got to other parts even though I cut them equally. So I needed to just bring the song in and encode it with the song panning over all 3 appended clips.

There was no loss of quality at all, if I remember... what made you think this (since I could have misunderstood you)?

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:48 pm

I know how frusterating lack of time can make problems. I myself am a new convert to Otohiko's I Hate Technology School of Digital Editing.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=44541