Linkin Park: Revolution(Official Thread)

[SuperFusion]

Your track still needs work, man..If you drop it let me know so I can take over. =|

Sorry, but I can't let you take more than 2 tracks seeing as TheFungus and SQ told me only allow people to take 2 tracks until they finish one and it's a satisfying one. Sorry to say this but your segment hasn't satisfied me in the timing area. Although you're going for a unique method of timing, it just won't be appreciated in a project filled with timing whores(umm..*coughSQcough*) and the fast/upbeatness of the project..I'm even considering to re-do my Easier to Run segment..Guess I need to think a little bit more about it..But I'm sure SQ is going to nag the hell outta me about it.

[Brolly345]

Hey, got your PM. I just wanted to say that my bro is still doing this. He just hasn't really had time for anything besides his crappy, messed up car and work. Other than that he hasn't had time for this. Me and him will get our segments done though. No worries.

[OtakuForLife]

I hearby drop all my tracks belonging to this project,
Have fun kids, I'm still going to put this video in my profile
and call it Rejected Track etc. No worries, more time to work on
non-mep stuff I wanna do and lead up dark desires correctly. Which I
hope will grind this MEP of yours into dust. No hard feelings
but I don't belong in this project.

[Niotex]

This is howfar my track is going and i want soem quick feedback on what you guys think

http://thundercat.no-ip.org/neoamv/medi ... LPBeta.avi

[SQ]

Your track still needs work, man..If you drop it let me know so I can take over. =|

Sorry, but I can't let you take more than 2 tracks seeing as TheFungus and SQ told me only allow people to take 2 tracks until they finish one and it's a satisfying one. Sorry to say this but your segment hasn't satisfied me in the timing area. Although you're going for a unique method of timing, it just won't be appreciated in a project filled with timing whores(umm..*coughSQcough*) and the fast/upbeatness of the project..I'm even considering to re-do my Easier to Run segment..Guess I need to think a little bit more about it..But I'm sure SQ is going to nag the hell outta me about it.

I never said that! How dare you drag me into it like that.
You make me sound like someone who flames everyone about timing.
I'm not a beta tester, and I'm not head of this project.

I don't know why you keep acting like I am. I don't know if you idolize me or just want to use me, but I hope you get your act together soon, SuperFusion. Your project is falling apart because you don't know how to lead it correctly.

And for the record, I said people should have a limit on how many tracks they could have total, and that they shouldn't have undecided anime. Not that you're only allowed two for every one you finish.

That's assinine.

And fungus quit this project, why do you care what he says? I'm still wondering why the hell I'm still here.

[SuperFusion]

And for the record, I said people should have a limit on how many tracks they could have total, and that they shouldn't have undecided anime. Not that you're only allowed two for every one you finish.

That's assinine.

And fungus quit this project, why do you care what he says? I'm still wondering why the hell I'm still here.[/quote]


In response to your first paragraph, you're lucky I didn't save my AIM convos before or I would've posted the lines you gave me. So as a pre-caution for this not to happen, I will be saving my AIM convos from now on. Anyone who AIMs me watch what you say because it may come back to bite you in the ass especially when you make it out for me to be the bad guy.

In response to your second statement, Fungus actually gave good advice. It doesen't matter if he's in the project or not. He told me "You should allow each editor two tracks because you're guarenteed to have some editors that aren't as experienced as others in the project and it could turn out disasterous if one of them were taking up a lot of the tracks." He's right. Not every editor is up to par with you, AMV_4000, TheUnlimited, etc... Not everyone can make a track that will blow me away. But the first thing I guarenteed myself was that I wasn't gonna let a track that didn't have timing down(basics) in to the project because it will eventually end up like every other LP vid on this site. And that's not what I want.

So I took both of you guys advice. I would only assign an editor two tracks until they can show me a satisfactory segment(this means the editor's timing) and when they show progress in their work, like if they had finished with their other track. I would assign them another until I know I can trust them enough to assign them more. I mean..look at me. My segments aren't great but they sure as hell have their way of timing. My Enth E Nd collab with you was about timing every beat I could and lyric synch. In my Easier to Run segment, I was lyric timing for the most part. If someone told me my timing was off, I would undoubtibly fix it.


I'm aware you don't like the way I run the project, but I'm sorry. This is what I must do in order for the project to hold some respect amongst the other ones. I know I may not be respected by editors for this, but it's the way I run my project in order for it to be great.

[SQ]

I did tell you your timing wasn't right with Easier to Run. Multiple times. You still haven't fixed it.

I'm awestruck at how you can put down Otaku for trying his hardest, and then saying, "Well, it would ruin my segment" if you didn't lyric synch. I even showed you how to lyric synch so it'd look better.

Does this situation sound familiar? It should.

You're telling people one thing and you are doing quite the opposite.

Just because you happen to like me, doesn't mean I should be treated any better than anyone else on this project. Would you have let anyone else collab on a track? I doubt it.

You say you want quality, but you let bad tracks through. TheFungus specifically said he quit because "Most of the tracks sucked". He named one person in particular, and I said that if the track sucked so much, how come the beta testers didn't make him/her do it over?

He told me "Yeah, I told SuperFusion that." I then asked who beta tested the person's track, and TheFungus never answered.

I believe this project will be good, and turn out well in the end, but only if you quit with the doublestandards.

[SuperFusion]

I did tell you your timing was off on Easier to Run. Multiple times. You still haven't fixed it.

I'm awestruck at how you can put down Otaku for trying his hardest, and then saying, "Well, it would ruin my segment" if you didn't lyric synch. I even showed you how to lyric synch so it'd look better.

Does this situation sound familiar? It should.

You're telling people one thing and you are doing quite the opposite.

Just because you happen to like me, doesn't mean I should be treated any better than anyone else on this project. Would you have let anyone else collab on a track? I doubt it.

You say you want quality, but you let bad tracks through. TheFungus specifically said he quit because "Most of the tracks sucked". He named one person in particular, and I said that if the track sucked so much, how come the beta testers didn't make him/her do it over?

He told me "Yeah, I told SuperFusion that." I then asked who beta tested the person's track, and TheFungus never answered.

I believe this project will be good, and turn out well in the end, but only if you quit with the doublestandards.

In response to your first statement, you're wrong. My timing wasn't off, what you wanted me to do was instead of timing the lyrics, you wanted me to time the beats. There's a difference between the way you time and timing itself.

In respond to your collab statement, you're wrong again. Why wouldn't I let someone collab with another? This whole project is about collabing. I wouldn't mind if two editors wanted to collab on a segment.

In respond to your "you let bad tracks in," you're wrong again. I talked to Doug about his segment and he said he had a lot going on right now, so he wouldn't be able to re-edit his segment. So he told me that if I felt the segment needed to be replace, then do it. And I had it open for FREE until DaCoolGohan picked it up.

[SQ]

Second and third things you proved me wrong on aside, the first still stands.

You're telling everyone to action synch, and you weren't/aren't for your Easier to Run segment. I did say you should change to action synch, I will give you that.
Because the whole project is focused on action synch, you having lyric synched would make the project slow down. You've seen Kut-Up, haven't you? All the tracks individually are good(mostly), but put together they made one sloppy project. They had no continuity. Some tracks lip synched, Some tracks did a DDR type SFX deal, some action synched, some lyric synched, and some created a drama. All great in their own terms and on their own canvases, but as a collage, they sucked and were mismatched.

As stated before, I do care about this project, despite not liking how it's managed, and in my opinion, you are yelling at everyone to action synch, but you are not doing so yourself (Atleast for your Easier to Run segment).

And I did, if you had forgotten, suggest a different way to lyric synch to look like it was action synch, and you turned it down because you "Don't want to redo the whole thing." Isn't that a bid ignorant of you? Otaku had to do his track atleast twice over, I had to do mine over, and you refuse to do your own over? That's a little much.

But I guess I really don't have that type of social standing, since I am not an "official" beta tester, even though you frequently ask for my opinion on both your tracks, and then ushered me into collabing with you on your Enth E End segment, as well. All because you "Don't know how to use motion" in Premiere. That's a little lazy.

[SuperFusion]

Second and third things you proved me wrong on aside, the first still stands.

You're telling everyone to action synch, and you weren't/aren't for your Easier to Run segment. I did say you should change to action synch, I will give you that.
Because the whole project is focused on action synch, you having lyric synched would make the project slow down. You've seen Kut-Up, haven't you? All the tracks individually are good(mostly), but put together they made one sloppy project. They had no continuity. Some tracks lip synched, Some tracks did a DDR type SFX deal, some action synched, some lyric synched, and some created a drama. All great in their own terms and on their own canvases, but as a collage, they sucked and were mismatched.

As stated before, I do care about this project, despite not liking how it's managed, and in my opinion, you are yelling at everyone to action synch, but you are not doing so yourself (Atleast for your Easier to Run segment).

And I did, if you had forgotten, suggest a different way to lyric synch to look like it was action synch, and you turned it down because you "Don't want to redo the whole thing." Isn't that a bid ignorant of you? Otaku had to do his track atleast twice over, I had to do mine over, and you refuse to do your own over? That's a little much.

But I guess I really don't have that type of social standing, since I am not an "official" beta tester, even though you frequently ask for my opinion on both your tracks, and then ushered me into collabing with you on your Enth E End segment, as well. All because you "Don't know how to use motion" in Premiere. That's a little lazy.

You're wrong again, SQ. I never told anyone to action sync unless it were a track like Kyur 4 Th Ich or Cure for the Itch. I got a PM about that 20 minutes ago and I'll post what the question was and my response.

Member shall remain annonymous for privacy

I wanted to know, what you think would be more appropriate for my section.

I was thinking of either A) Lip Syncing with masking transitions that DONT follow each and every beat, but will follow main ones.
OR.
B) Follow every beat and lose most of the meaning behind the origional concept.

So in your opinion after watching beta's how would you rather see the video go?(Post cut down for irrevelant information)


My response(SuperFusion)

Well, I really want you to action sync, but then again, I really want you to lyric synch, too. You should play around with it for awhile and try to do both and see how it turns out. In my opinion, I think you should do what you want and try your hardest on your segment and see how it turns out.(Response cut down for repeating myself over and over)

Yeah, you're right. You aren't a beta tester, but i chose you to beta test my segment because I know you know your stuff but sometimes you get carried away and want me to change my way of editing. Second, I don't ever remeber telling you to re-do your segment.

You're right. I'm not good with motion which is why I asked for your help, but it's irrevelant to the discussion. I already told you what I thought about collabing and this just shows that I have no problem with collabing. No, it's not lazyness. I haven't mastered motion yet. If someone wanted to collab with me so I can do a certain effect, I wouldn't mind. I woulda also like to point out that I never said "I don't wanna re-do my segment." That's complete and utter bullshit. I even recently said I may re-do my Easier to Run segment because you're right that it may stand out of the crowd because of the video's slow-pace, but my track flows in from a pretty slow segment itself. So, it would just come in nicely, if you ask me. Then the action picks up again in the next segment. Nice flow, in my opinion.