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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Squancho » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:10 am

Gaelstrom wrote:Not sure if we have time for another beta to test it.
Well,...I've finally finished putting the AMV contest together (what an ordeal that was) :sweat: ) so I think I can crank one more out and put these theories and visions to the test.
Then we should decide which one goes to AMA by Wednesday so I can write the credits.
Also gonna look for "walking away" clips in my collection tonight.
I know I have a few hidden somewhere...
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by moonbunnychan » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:47 am

Before you make the new beta I think we should try and make some sort of list of things we all pretty much agree on. There's a whole lot of ideas floating around.


I was watching My Little Pony (like the grown adult I am) and there's a part in the one I was watching that may be perfect for the whole "people randomly exploding" thing...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpP4NGyINB0 at the 1:55 mark. (I just can't think of anything to put it to).
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by krvabo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:27 am

Gaelstrom wrote:
One that caught me by surprise is my Wayne's World K-on one doesn't feel like it should be too close to the beginning. In fact I kind of felt like mine were pretty strong in that first beta where they were tossed in near the end. USA though does feel good as a starter, it was actually one I considered as an intro before Dr. Who. As such, I think playing that after Kung Fu Staring Contest, with the Staring Contest dead center at the halfway mark as a sort of intermission (that was a good description of it) then it can almost be like a 'second intro' of sorts to bring everyone back in. Anyway, that was just where my thought process was going. Not sure if we have time for another beta to test it.
I agree. The stapler clip should be more towards the end too. That one is really a pick-me-up clip, it kind of gives new energy.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Honou_Miko » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:35 pm

I'm... back! lol.

Just watched the latest beta.... we have a REALLY good salad this year. :D

Favorites are Jigglypuff, Phantom, Noah's on a Boat, Leprechaun, Pinky and the Brain, MY BRAND, the staring contest, "I can't read music" (seriously anything with audio from that scene is win in my book - I love the "it's an old music school trick :wink: ), Star Trekking, "Know how I know you're gay," Cuppycake, and... that INTRO. <3

How To Train Your Dragon was AWESOME but I think the lip could be improved a bit - and is there any footage of Oak looking more aggravated for when he's yelling at Ash?

I love France whipping his hair back and forth, but.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM9_WaxNMbY (I've wasted many hours looking at Hetalia videos, so I remember this... this one might have a high enough view count to reconsider, sadly.)

Please, PLEASE keep Moomin!!!! :D I saw it was called obscure earlier in the thread... I have never seen the series, but it's going to make quite a few people VERY happy. (You'll also get a double bonus for the people who are fans of Finland via Hetalia.) Plus I think we really do need some of the obscure stuff to balance out the popular ones.

I do agree with the earlier suggestion of having trollface come after one with big laughs... I really like the library clip but it doesn't have a huge punch line/slapstick effect like some others do, so it'd be a lot of relatively dead audience reaction time.

The hamster "it's so fluffy" could use some lip improvement - looks like she's saying "it's so flaaahhh~" XD Needs another syllable.

Robot Unicorn is great - my only hesitation is that in AMV Hell 5, there were quite a few Robot Unicorn videos, and people complained. But, we only have one, and I think the explosion helps a LOT to set it apart. If our audience is separate enough from the AMV Hell audience - it's also been nearly a year - we SHOULD be fine.

My Excel Saga clip might be helped with the explosion thing cutting it off at the end right as she's turning around. It kinda dies off at the end, and it's really a perfect place for another explosion.

I LOVE what you did with my tuna clip - I'd originally been adamant about NO THE HUMOR IS IN HOW LONG IT GOES ON, IT'S LIKE THE LAUGHING SCENE FROM THE MONEY PIT but it's pretty frigging golden being cut off after "I love you, man." Something about ending with that face. :rofl:

Nobody liked It's A Small World? :( So weird - that was my favorite out of all the ones I submitted. If it helps to make any more sense, the reason they're saying "it's a small world" is that... everyone is hating on Italy. (Fittingly, the name of the series is a portmanteau of Hetare + Italia = Useless Italy.) Someone said upthread that the first verse was strong but that the rest of it was slow... which is bizarre because I thought it was the other way around. I thought it'd pick up after everyone started beating the crap out of Italy. XD

Also, Gaelstrom, as I was skimming through pages I missed, I watched that Hetalia clip you made - took a little bit for it to pick up but I was laughing HARD by the end. It could be included, although it doesn't fit much with the kiddie theme - depends how willing you guys are to stick with that. It's pretty damn hilarious.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Gaelstrom » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:19 pm

moonbunnychan wrote:Before you make the new beta I think we should try and make some sort of list of things we all pretty much agree on. There's a whole lot of ideas floating around.

I was watching My Little Pony (like the grown adult I am) and there's a part in the one I was watching that may be perfect for the whole "people randomly exploding" thing...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpP4NGyINB0 at the 1:55 mark. (I just can't think of anything to put it to).
I agree on the list idea. Not sure how to make one we all agree on, I know of some I think that some others don't quite agree on and I can mention those to bring them to the forefront for discussion, but other than that, what if we just listed every clip and made a template in spoiler tags that people can make notes on? Simple ones that can be addressed afterward. We couldn't do it until after AMA at this point though, but that'll help as well to have reactions to base it on.

This new My Little Pony is actually quite well done ^^ If for no other reason than I enjoy the animations, it's quite well done. No wonder 4chan has hijacked it. For the audio, that's an instance where they introduce the concept, which does actually set up an event, but in this case the audio is too roundabout I think. Plus this is another reason why a human or creature randomly exploding doesn't work, because once you mention it, it's no longer 'random,' and people look for it, thus killing the comedic timing. It's never really random though. The whole psychology of this type of comedy is using the preconceived notions established in modern comedy in our society. Button clicks, someone saying 'famous last words, etc. to lead into it without anyone being able to follow consciously, but subconsciously the seed is planted. So it was a good thought, but please trust me, I'm not arbitrarily saying that we can't blow up a human.

Points where blowing up humans works are so rare that it's really too much work compared to a funnier and simpler alternatives. One example is last night I was watching Aqua Teen Hunger Force when they bring in Billy Witchdoctor and the scene is like 5 minutes long where he goes "Arise Chicken" and then Frylock blows him up. That's technically a random act, but Billy had to establish himself as such a moron that Frylock would do that without anyone knowing it was coming. Not the best example, but the only one I've seen that works recently.
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Welcome back, Miko! ^^

How To Train Your Dragon If I'm not mistaken, isn't this one moonbunnychan's? Unfortunately many of hers need some lipsync love to achieve their full potential. I didn't feel this one was one of them as much as the others I mentioned, though, but things only get better with solid lipsync, that's a fact. Our blood, sweat and tears proved that last year I think :wink: "Oh my gawwwd! I've never felt so stewped!" "Really!?"

France whipping his hair back and forth Well dammit... that was a perfect pallet cleanser... another alternative is to request usage from that author like I do with Captpan6 to use the clip, but that may be too much for 2 seconds...

Moomin Which one was this? And I must disagree with you, obscurity is too risky. Inside jokes are funny, but when they're set up. I'm sure you also know that, but they can backfire far easier than they can work, especially in a niche as diverse as convention Otaku ^^

trollface Agreed entirely. Trollface is valuable because it's a good build, but also a slow build with a payoff. It's perfect for right after a very funny one with a quick punchline like "Sucky sucky 5 dollah." Although for me, Sucky Sucky is now not as funny as when I saw it the first time before the prostitution one. It's not as surprising and out of nowhere anymore, so I'm a little sad. I was literally needing to pause to laugh when I saw that clip alone the first time out of nowhere.

Robot Unicorn We're definitely not separate from the AMV Hell audience. Which is why I'm so adamant about making this one work as an explosion. I guarantee at least some of the audience will immediately roll their eyes or go 'oh god' or something. We'll lose them for a few seconds, and the only way not only to win them back, but win them back in such a way that they'll be even MORE on our side, is to make the explosion as funny and over the top as possible I think. Moonbunnychan you said you like it because it's close to the game? For me, that's the problem, there's nothing special about the explosion scene. I was expecting something different, and was greeted with something I've seen before, if that makes sense. The best possible explosion we could find is a really large one on some kind of island, floating land, whatever, anything close to something that emulates a very quick cut to a far shot that shows a giant explosion in a similar environment.

Excel Saga clip Unfortunately no, I don't see an explosion working for this clip as it is. She's already blowing things up and they're on fire. It removes any of the surprise, plus Excel is already so random and random shit is attached to her very name in anime fans' minds. This is why I tend to avoid using parody anime, because they're already a parody, so it's exceptionally risky to do.

It's A Small World This clip is fine without knowing Hetalia intimately. I know of the concept and therefore get the joke with the concept. But the fact that you tried to explain the deeper meaning of the joke should tell you that it won't work for the general audience in that way ^^ Luckily, it's iconic in every other way. They're chibis, so even if someone didn't know Hetalia, it'd work. For the general audience, your clip is too long. For Hetalia fans, they'll have something deeper to get. So it's a good balance.

Hetalia Les Grossman I'd be more than happy to do this clip, seriously. We have no censorship this year, and I want to Les Grossman the fuck out of it. The only think I'm reluctant about is I need a scene of someone on a phone to truly make it strong since the audio dips in and out of the phone.

I have another idea I really need Deuce to tell me if he can allow me to do it or not for after AMA. I mentioned it before. Stein singing the Charlie Sheen Bi-Winning remix. It'll be like a 50-second clip, but I desperately want to do it this year while Charlie Sheen's insanity is still fresh.

One other thing, if we can't find people walking away from explosions, perhaps we can ask the AMA audience if they know any? It may be a bit 'unprofessional' or whatever, but who cares?
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Squancho » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:42 pm

We definitely have no Stein, much less Soul Eater, in this thing so go forth and represent. ;)
And I'll have at least two "walking" scenes tonight.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by SammySamaProductions » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:42 pm

Gaelstrom wrote: One other thing, if we can't find people walking away from explosions, perhaps we can ask the AMA audience if they know any? It may be a bit 'unprofessional' or whatever, but who cares?
we could have comment card for if anyone knows of any and then have them put their name/nickname on it and sort of have a added "thanks to" in the credits for those who helped find clips...
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Warlike Swans » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:44 pm

Gaelstrom wrote:
Moomin Which one was this? And I must disagree with you, obscurity is too risky. Inside jokes are funny, but when they're set up. I'm sure you also know that, but they can backfire far easier than they can work, especially in a niche as diverse as convention Otaku ^^
Moomin = Prostitute Hippo

Moomin is only obscure in the states, it's probably better known worldwide than any anime (except possibly Pokemon).... it has a theme park. I've seen the comics sold in Barnes & Noble, so for the intended audience it may be obscure, but not overwhelmingly so.

The reason why I wouldn't cut the longer Moomin one is that the theme is getting lost among non-themed clips but I don't want the impact of the "Sucky Sucky" one to be lost either. It could be cut to "I hope to bear many illegitimate children into abject poverty" and go after "Sucky, Sucky"... dunno if that would help, or lose the joke.

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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by Gaelstrom » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:58 pm

Warlike Swans wrote:
Gaelstrom wrote:
Moomin Which one was this? And I must disagree with you, obscurity is too risky. Inside jokes are funny, but when they're set up. I'm sure you also know that, but they can backfire far easier than they can work, especially in a niche as diverse as convention Otaku ^^
Moomin = Prostitute Hippo

Moomin is only obscure in the states, it's probably better known worldwide than any anime (except possibly Pokemon).... it has a theme park. I've seen the comics sold in Barnes & Noble, so for the intended audience it may be obscure, but not overwhelmingly so.

The reason why I wouldn't cut the longer Moomin one is that the theme is getting lost among non-themed clips but I don't want the impact of the "Sucky Sucky" one to be lost either. It could be cut to "I hope to bear many illegitimate children into abject poverty" and go after "Sucky, Sucky"... dunno if that would help, or lose the joke.
Oh, I wasn't for cutting either really, and nothing's wrong with the prostitute one I guess, but I really do like the Sucky Sucky one better because of how I first saw it. I know your intention was to have it be a connected series of clips, but until you said that, I never thought that way, and I don't think anyone else will since the audio is different. It takes too much thought to connect the prostitute clip with the cartman clip, so I don't think anyone will be consciously doing that. It's just I was so in love with the out-of-nowhere Cartman coming from this little hippo that fit far better than I could have imagined ^^ With the prostitute clip before it, it no longer is out of nowhere. Plus I want to go back to the first beta and see what clip was before it, because maybe the clip before it really set it up well to be as funny as it could be as well.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Post by krvabo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Btw, this might be answered before, but will someone make another reaction video?
I loved the one of amvs4 and watched it several times. Actually, I prefer watching it to the 'normal' download.
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