Dvd usage help needed [please]

[Sora no Honou 空の炎]

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Through all of this please keep in mind that I am almost totally new to the site, and everything that I have ever done/learned as far as amvs has been through experience, about 2 tutorials from when I was first starting with wmm (I now use Sony Vegas 8), and trying to discover new tricks by watching other amvs, so if anything I say seems entirely stupid, you know why.

I am trying to rip dvd footage for the first time ever. I have been following this guide so far: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... getb1.html I am using the NTSC release of Samurai Champloo disk 1. I installed the amvapp about month ago. So far I have ripped it using DVDecrypter, and used DGindex to get a d2v file. I have also been learning to use avisynth, and previewing it in virtualdubmod. I so far have added these settings in the notepad (I am sure they need redone):

MPEG2Source("C:\Users\Brandon\Videos\DGindexed\Samurai_Champloo_Episode_1.d2v",cpu=4)
Telecide(order=1)
Decimate(mode=1, threshold=1.0)

Every 5 frames or so in sequences with a lot of movement, I get a frame that has kind of 2 frames put together. Here is one of the most noticeable examples between the switch of 2 view points:


This clearly isn't correct. These are the results that I got from DGindex after it finished doing its thing.



I have no idea how to fix this problem (I cant figure out how to fix it from the guide mentioned), what to do next, the whole aspect ratios thing is confusing me because in virtualdub it appears fine as widescreen, and have little/no experience with this whole thing. I was making my amvs from fansubs of bleach before doing this (yes I know, I am not using them anymore).

In short, just please help.

[mirkosp]

Frame blending... the only way to get rid of it is if both the top and bottom fields of the frame are available and clean (as in, there is no full field blending in the source). If that is the case, you would be able to manually pair the correct fields with something like YATTA... this basically means that you'd have to manually IVTC the whole thing. This process can be pretty long and tedious as you might suspect though.
Another solution would be to just field match and don't decimate, and then just manually pick up the clean frame, assuming it's there.
But the thing you'll likely want to try first is using the TIVTC package to IVTC, since it's better. It actually comes with the latest version of the guides, which is available here. It seems as if you have been following a rather old version of the guide, admittedly outdated by now... for example, virtualdubmod is 3 years old by now, you'll want to use the latest version of the plain virtualdub, and avsp as an avs editor.
If once updated you still get the issue, I guess you'll have to go the manual way... or deal with the blended frame every now and then.

[Sora no Honou 空の炎]

ok, I now have the latest amv app, and have run the vob file through dg index. Please help me figure out what avisynth scripts to use.

[mirkosp]

Re-run dgindex with the video > field operation set to "force film" and you will be fine without any deinterlacing.
Actually scratch that, you took the screenshot before it finished the whole indexing. I'd need one of the whole project... you can paste here the info printed in the log file that it created along with the .d2v.

[Sora no Honou 空の炎]

Sorry about that. Thanks for your help.

[Emotive]

[mirkosp]

@ Emotive: I see my motivational poster has some use.

@ Killerwombat: I'd try:

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MPEG2Source("C:\Users\Brandon\Videos\DGindexed\Samurai_Champloo_Episode_1.d2v",cpu=4)
TFM(d2v="C:\Users\Brandon\Videos\DGindexed\Samurai_Champloo_Episode_1.d2v",order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
TDecimate()

See if it helps.

[Sora no Honou 空の炎]

@Mirkosp: That did it. Thanks. If you don't mind, can you tell me how you knew that it was what I needed to do? And help explain what the filters mean. It would really help me avoid having to pester people for what to do in future situations...

@Emotive:
*stares at picture*

...I'm sorry, what, did you say something?

[mirkosp]

Well, the filters I suggested are an improved field matcher and frame decimator, which do work better than the quite older plain telecide and decimate. The settings are just recommended settings for further precision when field matching.

[Sora no Honou 空の炎]

Okay, I think that I should be okay now. I have done everything i am supposed to (I think), and am currently in vdmod creating avi clips and adding them to job control. Thanks for all your help. In the end, this is what I have in my avisynth script:

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MPEG2Source("C:\Users\Brandon\Videos\AMVs\Amv Creation\indexed\Samurai Champloo ep1.d2v",cpu=4)
TFM(d2v="C:\Users\Brandon\Videos\AMVs\Amv Creation\indexed\Samurai Champloo ep1.d2v",order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
TDecimate()
Spline36Resize(848,480)
dfttest(sigma=15)
Toon()