Is Premiere CS3 all you need for editing?

FushigiNaKuniNo · Post by **FushigiNaKuniNo** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:42 pm

I'm not asking if it's all that you strictly need, but do those of you who use CS3 use any other programs to go with it, aside from AMVapp? I figure as long as I'm getting started in AMVs, I might as well hit the ground running.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, and thank you!

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:46 pm

Given enough time, you could cure cancer with Premiere. Disregard the fact it gave you the cancer in the first place.

FushigiNaKuniNo · Post by **FushigiNaKuniNo** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:49 pm

XD

Thank you, that is comforting!

So you don't necessarily need another program to create most effects? I'm specifically curious about uses of AfterEffects/Photoshop, and whether if you have them you can do things that Premiere alone cannot.

LivingFlame · Post by **LivingFlame** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:55 pm

If you plan on doing any extensive frame-by-frame editing/masking (such as cutting a character out and putting it on a new background), you will need either AE or Photoshop. Premiere can't do it alone; the best thing it has is a 16-point garbage matte, and you will likely need a lot more than 16 points for such a venture.

Outside of that, I can't really think of any reason to need anything other than Premiere unless you're trying to create some heavy/complicated effects.

FushigiNaKuniNo · Post by **FushigiNaKuniNo** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 pm

Ok, thank you very much!

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:58 pm

LivingFlame wrote:If you plan on doing any extensive frame-by-frame editing/masking (such as cutting a character out and putting it on a new background), you will need either AE or Photoshop. Premiere can't do it alone; the best thing it has is a 16-point garbage matte, and you will likely need a lot more than 16 points for such a venture.

Outside of that, I can't really think of any reason to need anything other than Premiere unless you're trying to create some heavy/complicated effects.

premiere has an image key tool (or at least it does in pro 1.5)
so it's possible to do frame-by-frame rotoscoping in premiere...but it's a world easier in After Effects

LivingFlame · Post by **LivingFlame** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:11 pm

You mean like luma and chromo keys? Because keying and hand-cutting something out of an image are two different things. Keying =/= Pen Tool (of Photoshop and AE).

Unless, of course, there's a tool/effect hidden in Premiere that I just don't know about (which is always possible), in which case, please clue me in, lol. I use Vegas more than I do Premiere, so I certainly don't claim to know everything there is to know about Premiere.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:46 pm

oh boy...here we go
I haven't fired up premiere on my laptop in ages

*waits for explosion*

hmm...no explosion

Image mask is a transition (pro 1.5)
when you apply it you can select a custom mask to use (any B+W .bmp file will do)

a bit crude, but it would work.
AE or Photoshop are still the way to go if you can get them.

LivingFlame · Post by **LivingFlame** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:11 pm

Ah, I see. Well, they took that specific transition (lolwut?) out at some point, because it isn't in CS3. A luma key would do the exact same thing though, if applied to a black and white image. I guess that's why they ditched it.