cs3 disscusion

lister007 · Post by **lister007** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:09 pm

I am of course talking about the new releases of all the adobe creative suites, in particualr the ones I am interested in is photoshop, after effects and premerie. I would be interested in the production premiuim pack, but what do you guys think of them of stand alone new programs, and as upgrades. Are they worth upgrading from the cs2, 7.0 and pro we are also familiar with?

Krisqo · Post by **Krisqo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:27 pm

lister007 wrote:I am of course talking about the new releases of all the adobe creative suites, in particualr the ones I am interested in is photoshop, after effects and premerie. I would be interested in the production premiuim pack, but what do you guys think of them of stand alone new programs, and as upgrades. Are they worth upgrading from the cs2, 7.0 and pro we are also familiar with?

Well... if you want to play with Vista, it's a must since these are the only programs by Adobe that are Vista compatible. I don't know if the older versions will run since I have XP and plan to remain that way but I have read that all non CS3 Adobe Products are not compatible, but someone might very well prove me wrong.

But in general, there's no way to know about Premiere or After Effects since they have not been released yet and Adobe won't provide trials until 6-8 weeks after they hit the street. You can read about them on the <a href="www.adobe.com">Adobe Systems Website</a>.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:47 pm

I don't really think that cs3 is any better in respect to making amvs.
premiere pro cs3 will probably still have the exporting problems, and the system requirements are fairly high-end.

It seems like the big selling point for cs3 is the ability to work with HD footage, which I don't think will be showing up regularly (for anime) until some time after the current format war is over.
For pro 2.0 (using HD), you need a raid0 array spinning at no less than 7200rpm, 2GB of ram, and a decent mid-range graphics card (supposedly my ATI mobility radeon x800 can handle it)
I doubt that cs3 has lower system requirements

after effects cs3 might be worth it, doesn't look like the system requirements will be too demanding. From the adobe page, it looks like they added some interesting features to AE cs3, but I don't really see anything that will make a drastic improvement amv-wise.

I've never used photoshop, so I can't really comment about that...but I'd be inclined to say that cs2, 7.0 and 2.0 are close to the line where usefulness becomes excessive for our purposes.

*is content with pro 1.5 and AE 6.5*

Krisqo · Post by **Krisqo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:16 pm

It's like the old proverb, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Premiere 6.5 and After Effects 6.5 are enough for me.

Though I'd be inclined to say that once the full CS3 collection comes out, a lot of new AMV editors will jump in. Especially since all new PCs are coming with Vista (I never know I would grow to love XP so much)

lister007 · Post by **lister007** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:56 pm

It's like the old proverb, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Premiere 6.5 and After Effects 6.5 are enough for me.

I'm with you on that one, not just for the editing program but the os, I don't plan on "changing" (note didn't say upgrading) to vista and if I do want a new os I will get a mac so will have to get new programs anyway. I think your right, wont know until it comes out I guess but I personally didn't see a huge difference between ae 6.5 and 7.0, there are some don't get me wrong, the rendering engine was the best thing I could pic out I think but just doesn't feel like the program as a whole needs upgrading, what I would like to see is better adon/plugins and more flexability between ae and pro (as I got them seperatley) which you get if you buy them together I think.

If the rendering engine was improved I'm really happy with the frameserver thing (sorry haven't made an amv in a while) and virtualdubmod with some kind of lossless codec. HD shmachdee, I know you always want better quality but can't seem that being fluent for a while, and also from what I've seem the most noticible hd footage is stuff with a great level of detail, anime rarely has that. Also, if we were to up 1080 hd on the site most computers moiters can't see to that resolution, thinking most work to 1024 and laptop usually less. Also HDMI has the capabilities of something like 2048 so we are sure to see more and more upgrades along those lines.

Will be making an amv later this year I hope, haven't made one in a bit cos really need the practice but want to sway everything out before I started, think the best sounds like to stick with what I have, make some betas this time and get feedback is the best option.

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:42 pm

I am most definitely looking forward to trying out AE CS3, if only for the addition of Shape Layers (essentially, a real vector graphics solution, as opposed to just using Masks). Can't say I'm terribly interested in Premiere Pro CS3, then again I'm still using 6.5

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:07 pm

I tried the beta of Premiere Pro CS3, and I noticed that it no longer had any problems with rendering previews when I tell it to. In older versions I would press enter to render a preview, and instead it would just try to play in realtime without rendering, despite the fact that it couldnt... it still doesnt export properly though and it still runs slow as hell on my system.

Photoshop CS3 has made some nice improvements in that now you can tweak filter settings after you have applied the filters. That's the main improvement that I see, and its big. Honestly though, this sort of thing should have been available like 10 versions ago. Sometimes Photoshop just seems behind the times to me...

Haven't tried After Effects CS3, but the new brainstorm feature looks really interesting. I think they might have brought in the awful "audio conforming" stuff from Premiere, because I saw it in pics of the preferences menu. I hope to god that they dont require conforming audio now... at least make it an option. If it makes the audio scrubbing any better though, I suppose I could live with it, though I doubt thats the case.

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:26 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Haven't tried After Effects CS3, but the new brainstorm feature looks really interesting. I think they might have brought in the awful "audio conforming" stuff from Premiere, because I saw it in pics of the preferences menu. I hope to god that they dont require conforming audio now... at least make it an option. If it makes the audio scrubbing any better though, I suppose I could live with it, though I doubt thats the case.

My absolute #1 gripe with AE is how it deals with audio. If it dealt with audio the same way Premiere did, I would absolutely use it way more than I do now. I just always look at it as being a chore when it comes to syncing :\ So yeah if CS3 has improved that, I will be extremely overjoyed.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:32 pm

conformed audio sucks...but I'd deal with it if I could scrub audio frame by frame like in premiere.
having to scrub audio about 7 frames at a time and guessing at where to sync doesn't help me get things done

Up In Flamez · Post by **Up In Flamez** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:11 pm

Not interested in Premiere Pro cs3, i still prefer 6.5. Don't do much image editing. I'll just stick with Photoshop CS. AE cs3, i might check out. AE is the only thing that i like to have up to date.

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