Need a fast/easy codec for betas

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:22 pm

Ok, so now that I can edit (albeit with saving after every edit) I found a new problem. I can't render my video because Premiere keeps trying to make the blasted thing over 1 gig so it crahses before completing. This seems to happen regardless of what codecs I set or what resolution I tell it to output at.

I've tried xvid, divx etc.

I can't just preview the whole video in premiere because it crashes almsot every minute and a half which does not exactly let me view my video in appropriate continuity.

Anybody have a good codec that is compatable with CS3 that can render at least a watchable resolution relatively quickly since it's only for betas?

Falconone · Post by **Falconone** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:37 pm

do you export it with any codec? or without? If you use a codec like Huffy i had also problems with the export. For betas i use ZarxGui and make a little mp4 for it...

kenzuka · Post by **kenzuka** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:38 pm

I do not use codec to export or to render my project in premiere. It is well-known that Adobe do not know how to do good encode, so I only work in uncompressed, except for my sources which can be in lagarith or huffyuv.

By working in uncompressed, I never had any rendering/encoding/exporting problems with pro 2.0 or CS3.

What I can suggest you, is wthat when you want to export a part of your timeline for a beta, (especially if you are like me, I have a lot of my rush on it), you just have to create a new timeline and copy/paste in it the elements you want to export.
After that, export this timeline in uncompressed and use Vdub to encode your beta, and because I am a bit lazy with the video quality of my beta, I encode it in divx in a single pass (so I can encode the sound at the same time) at 3000kb. It's pretty fast like that.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:04 pm

try Debugmode frameserver to serve your project to vdub instead

Rinny · Post by **Rinny** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:20 am

I recently found that all previewing problems (including lag) I've been having could be solved by forgoing the codec altogether and just using DV compression. I still export my finals using huffyuv or uncompressed, though.

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:09 am

I'll try the gui, but all my source is in avisynth files. Exporting uncompressed doesn't work at all so to make a final I have to export the video in segments and reassemble it inavisynth which I then run through vdub or tmpgenc.

Problem is that that's not really practical when I just want to see what the video as a whole looks like atm.

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:13 am

Ok problem with zaraxgui. It's asking for source video and audio but that's just it, I can't export anything out of premiere that isn't only a snippet of my video. I need to export the whole thing to get this going.

I used to export in divx or xvid but for some reason it will keep crashing when I try to export the whole video. Typically it's doing that because the file is constantly over 1 gig (no matter how many times I mess with the parameters I can't seem to stopit from trying to do this).

So I need a way to get it out of premiere (the full 3+ minute video as one file) for only a beta purpose.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:06 am

Try this codec, the PICVideo MJPEG. At the highest compression, you have great quality loss (wmv compression would be better quality...), but is VERY fast for the export and never crashed premiere nor ae. For a beta just for you, it would be great (I just happen to prefer exporting the video than just previewing it in premiere... it just kills the sync showing a frame out of 10...).
If you want a high quality beta, than Kariudo suggestion will do. Frameserve your project to virtual dub mod and compress there.
It's up to you what to choose... but, seriously, exporting uncompressed never gave me problems in Premiere Pro CS3, so I don't see why it does to you.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:48 am

Hmm. I never had lagarith crash premiere. O_o

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:08 pm

Update: Still nothing works

Lagrith: Trying to render results in Premiere telling me that the I should switch it to memory mode. Doing this just results in it crashing when I try to render it again later.

MJPEG PIC: For some reason I get a C++ Runtime error when I try to render that one

Frameserver: I installed it into the pugin directory but it never shows up in the output formats or codecs (not sure where it should appear since the page isn't exactly too descriptive on the matter.