AWA has a new contest!

[madmallard]

only if you come up with a sucky way of counting em. ;p

[TaranT]

Will there be a significant (whatever that means??) amount of time between each vid to clear the applause ? I know that reduces the number of vids that can play, but the applause could last longer than the vid itself, spoiling the vid that follows.

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Here's a suggestion for the voting. A ballot with three columns, one with ID numbers, one with "yes" in each row, one with "no" in each row. The instructions are to simply answer this question after each vid plays: "Do you think this vid should win? Yes or no?" The viewer can circle as many "yes" as he or she wants. One, two, all of them...doesn't matter. All that matters is that the vid with the most "yes" answers wins.

I don't think there would even be a need to review the vids at the end if you can impress on people that they should choose right away. Their choices are going to be impulsive anyway. Might as well deal with it and build that into the system.

Tallying the results would simply be a matter of laying a sheet over the "no" column alongside the "yes" column, then making a stroke next to each "yes" that is circled...one ballot at a time. (I'm thinking the old 4-strokes, then a 5th to make groups of five, but whatever works.)

This should be quick enough to allow two people working in parallel to cross-check the tallies. But with up to 500 ballots...could be tedious.

[AMV_4000]

Play Mine Last...

(last means its fresh in your memory, bettering my chances of being laughed at... )
but i'll give this a shot..

[MCWagner]

Will there be a significant (whatever that means??) amount of time between each vid to clear the applause ? I know that reduces the number of vids that can play, but the applause could last longer than the vid itself, spoiling the vid that follows.

We're gonna be kinda running it through a testing phase to try and sort all this out. Ideally, we'd get it together in some kind of uniform composition, like overlay a number in the upper right corner like someone was flipping channels. You're right, though, that would muddle up applause / laugh time for the audience. Much of this depends on what kind of a response we get. I don't expect to recieve 120 videos for this, so it'll hardly fill the entire time slot. In other words, playing it by ear.

Here's a suggestion for the voting. A ballot with three columns, one with ID numbers, one with "yes" in each row, one with "no" in each row. The instructions are to simply answer this question after each vid plays: "Do you think this vid should win? Yes or no?" The viewer can circle as many "yes" as he or she wants. One, two, all of them...doesn't matter. All that matters is that the vid with the most "yes" answers wins.

I don't think there would even be a need to review the vids at the end if you can impress on people that they should choose right away. Their choices are going to be impulsive anyway. Might as well deal with it and build that into the system.

Tallying the results would simply be a matter of laying a sheet over the "no" column alongside the "yes" column, then making a stroke next to each "yes" that is circled...one ballot at a time. (I'm thinking the old 4-strokes, then a 5th to make groups of five, but whatever works.)

This should be quick enough to allow two people working in parallel to cross-check the tallies. But with up to 500 ballots...could be tedious.

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HELL no. There's a bunch of problems with that.
1) It expects the audience to vote on EVERY video. Over an hour showtime I barely expect 80% of the audience to be able to pick a favorite.

2) Binary elimination ranking is a terrible way to pull a "best" out of a group. Every response from mediocre-good to fantastic all get the same amount of credit from a single ballot. The way to give weight to your favorite contestant would be to vote only for the one you want to win, and deny all the runners-up your check in the "yes" category. I just wanted to standardize the "pick your favorite" vote. All the other votes would only be needed if we were gonna release the results so you could see an elaborate tiering of winners. But since there's only one winner, this is much simpler.

3) You could be recording 30-40 votes per ballot. There's no WAY to get through that many in the allotted two hours. I used to help Jingoro with the "Anime family feude" game show & we always got stuck for three or four hours tallying up the results 'cause there were twenty questions per sheet... and that was with only a 110 or so ballots. With the "pick your favorite system, I'd just divide up the stack into three piles, and assign two staffers to each. One reads off the vote from each sheet, & the other tallies on a clipboard. Add it all together, you have a winner.

No offense intended, and I appreciate the thought, but I really don't think your proposed method is feasable.

[The Wired Knight]

Will there be a significant (whatever that means??) amount of time between each vid to clear the applause ? I know that reduces the number of vids that can play, but the applause could last longer than the vid itself, spoiling the vid that follows.

We're gonna be kinda running it through a testing phase to try and sort all this out. Ideally, we'd get it together in some kind of uniform composition, like overlay a number in the upper right corner like someone was flipping channels. You're right, though, that would muddle up applause / laugh time for the audience. Much of this depends on what kind of a response we get. I don't expect to recieve 120 videos for this, so it'll hardly fill the entire time slot. In other words, playing it by ear.

Your overlay should last a couple of seconds and before the contest starts I'd warn people that the videos will still go by pretty fast so best to save applause till the end lest they clap over an entry.

Laughter is something natural, can't help that one. But the break inbetween and warning the audience ahead of time that it goes by quickly could make things easier on that end.

[TaranT]

...No offense intended, and I appreciate the thought, but I really don't think your proposed method is feasable.

No offense taken at all. That was just another of my 1:30-in-the-morning posts, and with a Kung Fu TV episode as distraction.

I realize that it would mean more work for the tally-ers, but I see it as a trade-off. You can spend the time at the backend when it's available, or else consume maybe 5-10 minutes during the show; i.e. reviewing the entries, giving people time to think it over, then collecting ballots, etc.

And I don't see the voting method as elimination. In fact, just the opposite: vote for everything you like. Your reply actually confirms the real problem with my scheme. Namely, it's very difficult to get out of the mindset that "there can be only one". And I'm afraid that people would just get confused if this were implemented.

An example of what I proposed is the market for music. There are two or three dozen music makers that I actively listen to. I can't pick just one that's the best. Now assume that's true for most everybody, you still have one artist at the top of the Top-40 list or best-selling CD list, or whatever list. For these kind of popularity lists, it's the sums that matter.


In any event I think it's a great idea for a contest even though it may turn out to be difficult to pull off. I've got a couple of ideas for vids, too.

[Zeke McKillip]

you said you weren't expecting even 120 entries, so I assume that you have an hour of viewing/voting and an hour of tallying? well accept 80 entries (shouldn't have too many cuts that way) and then play the first half twice. This way the voters see all the videos with plenty to compare them too. It eliminates the naturally skewed initial response (either too high cuz they've never seen anything that funy, and then it ends up being so-so compared to other entries, or too low because they didn't want to give a 10/10 to the first video, even though it actually deserved it).

For the Ballots have the videos listed in the order shown and as they go by the voters can mark 1 to 10 on their preference scale, then when the first half plays again they can see their old score and compare it to what they think the second time around comparatively. They then circle their three favorite vids.

This eliminates the need for them to write anything, they don't need notes which could confuse tallyers, and they don't have to choose just one, they get their favorite three.

My own short attention span is kinda muddling with my own idea, but that is the gist of what I would do, and I think it would work great, if limiting to the number of entries.

[MCWagner]

you said you weren't expecting even 120 entries, so I assume that you have an hour of viewing/voting and an hour of tallying? well accept 80 entries (shouldn't have too many cuts that way) and then play the first half twice. This way the voters see all the videos with plenty to compare them too. It eliminates the naturally skewed initial response (either too high cuz they've never seen anything that funy, and then it ends up being so-so compared to other entries, or too low because they didn't want to give a 10/10 to the first video, even though it actually deserved it).

For the Ballots have the videos listed in the order shown and as they go by the voters can mark 1 to 10 on their preference scale, then when the first half plays again they can see their old score and compare it to what they think the second time around comparatively. They then circle their three favorite vids.

This eliminates the need for them to write anything, they don't need notes which could confuse tallyers, and they don't have to choose just one, they get their favorite three.

My own short attention span is kinda muddling with my own idea, but that is the gist of what I would do, and I think it would work great, if limiting to the number of entries.

'Fraid that's far too elaborate a plan to follow without knowing what kind of a response I'm gonna get. But I'll keep it in mind.

[Zarxrax]

Something I happened to think of...

It wouldnt be good if you write out the anime and song for all the videos on the ballot sheet... because of course people are going to look at it, and just seeing some of the combinations would spoil a lot of the videos...

[MCWagner]

Something I happened to think of...

It wouldnt be good if you write out the anime and song for all the videos on the ballot sheet... because of course people are going to look at it, and just seeing some of the combinations would spoil a lot of the videos...

I thought of that as well, but I'm at something of a loss for what to put there then... Video title?