Very professional response.AngelDragoon wrote:Somehow I had a feeling something like this was going to happen...
I'm sure most people, including myself, understand the reasoning behind checking appropriateness with the higher ups. A parent who doesn't understand conventions, let alone the content that could be in amvs, and becomes irate over their children seeing things he or she didn't want them to is a lot more important to said convention than a few frustrated editors being unable to show their work. An angry parent can affect sales and future attendance of others who may have wanted to participate in the event. Considering you had issues with a coordinator showing things before, I'm not surprised by the con erring on the side of caution. It's better to do this than to not have a contest at all.
That being said, communication is key, whether between the editors and the department or the department and the convention itself. Unless you didn't know about this 'passing it along for questionable content' rule, it should have been stated in the very beginning this would be procedure and what grading to go by, (G, PG, PG-13, etc). Even if it wasn't made apparent, videos should have been screened at least within a week or two of receiving them and if they seemed the slightest bit questionable, the editor should have been made aware that they might need to make a censored version available or risk disqualification, (or even had the option of sending something else). Granted, you may not have even known the issue with the last coordinator, but some kind of standard should have been set by the convention from the get-go to avoid these kinds of problems. What if all you had were those 30 entries? Or what if all 90 of those videos were questionable in some form or another? Stuff like that should be thought of in advanced. Furthermore, for almost a third of videos to be potentially disqualified – after the editors spent the time and energy not only making the entry, but deciding to send it to this particular convention – appears inconsiderate and, frankly, disrespectful to everyone that entered, whether these were thought of as consequences or not. (I'm not saying this is true, but it could look like this to some).
Please don't take this as a personal attack, because it isn't. Everyone has slip ups, especially when one has a life and had one too many things on their plate at a time. I'm not going to sit here and condemn you for mistakes made when you're new to running this particular contest and dealing with the head staff and rules you may not have been aware of until now. (Though not everyone has to be so forgiving). However, learn from it and note what parts of the contest needs fixing in the future. One person's idea of acceptable content may not be someone else's, and it's better to be on the safe side than to have this devolve into...well, this.
Hope all goes well for you guys regardless, though.
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Valid. Sounds too complicated for meBasharOfTheAges wrote:Principles are occasionally a confusing thing to explain for people that don't have them.ShodanKid wrote:But withdrawing over reasonings as being outlined...sorry, I really don't get it.
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I quit Katsucon on principle alone.
I can't even begin to tell you how bad it's become over there.
I can't even begin to tell you how bad it's become over there.
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FINALIST WILL BE ANNOUNCED TOMORROW NIGHT!
I'm just waiting on approval of 2 AMV's right now. I should have final approval by the con chair tomorrow hopefully.
I'll be making the announcement then.
Also if any of the editors that entered the contest are going to be at the convention please let me know. I'm going to try and get you reserved seating for all contest screenings and would also like to arrange a meet up as well.
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I'm just waiting on approval of 2 AMV's right now. I should have final approval by the con chair tomorrow hopefully.
I'll be making the announcement then.
Also if any of the editors that entered the contest are going to be at the convention please let me know. I'm going to try and get you reserved seating for all contest screenings and would also like to arrange a meet up as well.
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Is there a dq list ?
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I will email the editors the videos that were DQ and the reasons why.
I am already working on plans for next year to make this a better contest for both the editors and the audience.
Next year there will be 4, that's right 4 AMV Contest's
We will have the main AMV contest which will be PG-13 (strict) meaning eventhough it is rated PG-13 it's closer to PG, some blood a loud...etc...more detail on this as I type it up with the convention for next year.
Then we will have a PG-13 contest that will consist of videos that have more blood, language and other stuff that would not be allowed in the normal contest. Think of this as an 18+ minus the hentai.
We will have Battle of the Greats again next year.
And a new contest called Weekend of Champions.
I'm trying my best to make sure this works out for everyone.
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I am already working on plans for next year to make this a better contest for both the editors and the audience.
Next year there will be 4, that's right 4 AMV Contest's
We will have the main AMV contest which will be PG-13 (strict) meaning eventhough it is rated PG-13 it's closer to PG, some blood a loud...etc...more detail on this as I type it up with the convention for next year.
Then we will have a PG-13 contest that will consist of videos that have more blood, language and other stuff that would not be allowed in the normal contest. Think of this as an 18+ minus the hentai.
We will have Battle of the Greats again next year.
And a new contest called Weekend of Champions.
I'm trying my best to make sure this works out for everyone.
Gene Starwind 21122
No matter what, stay calm, stay cool and live life to the fullest.
Plus as Gene would say always go big in life.
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Nekocon AMV Contest Coordinator 2014
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I think ur just overshooting it quite a bit and it'll stretch thin on entries....why not just have a PG-13 contest and be done with it?
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Said more concisely than I could have done.l33tmeatwad wrote:I think ur just overshooting it quite a bit and it'll stretch thin on entries....why not just have a PG-13 contest and be done with it?
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Reason being is as of right now their "PG-13" is more like "PG+" it is not a true PG-13 by today's movie standards. After the past few years being a mess, I have to be extremly careful this year and gain their trust.l33tmeatwad wrote:I think ur just overshooting it quite a bit and it'll stretch thin on entries....why not just have a PG-13 contest and be done with it?
So videos that I would normally deem okay for a contest had to get DQ this year.
Last night I made some valid points though and we will be discussing them after the convention to improve the rules and the contest next year, so I do not have to DQ so many entries or create the 4th contest. (The third contest is just winners and runners up from past years nekocon going against each other.)
I appreciate everyone that enter the contest this year. It was amazing that we received 90 videos for the main contest and 38 for Battle of the Greats.
Thanks once again.
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Plus as Gene would say always go big in life.
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