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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by dwchang » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:52 pm

Doomimus wrote:Then again, I think that those of us who take the hobby seriously do take both questions into consideration. Personally, I prioritize entertainment value above all else. I've seen videos that demonstrate superb technical skill (the kind I admittedly wish I had), with all sorts of special effects, lip-syncing, masking, etc., but leave me cold and don't exactly make me rush back for a second viewing. This is taking it to a logical extreme, of course, and I think technical skill can and should be the deciding factor in choosing the better of two videos that are equally entertaining. By this token, I feel that in the past, I've rightfully lost to videos that excelled both these areas.
Fair enough. It depends on your intention I suppose. I've made plenty of videos I thought were "fun," but not "serious" or whatnot and also made videos purely to test my technical abilities (or lack thereof). It's all about intent (and what you want to get out of it).
Doomimus wrote:I don't think incorporating comedy into AMVs is necessarily going down the path of least resistance (whether your aim is to win or simply to please yourself), provided the comedy is genuinely funny and fits the overall theme of the video. This isn't always easy to do. In fact, I had a heck of a time trying to piece the audio and video footage together in the best way possible for the AMG video.
In all fairness, I have not watched your video (or any video since like 2008) so it wasn't a snipe at you so no worries. I am just commenting on a common trend that I've been seeing since around 2005. I obviously have my own preferences, but I voice them with my one vote (as does everyone else) and I accept the results accordingly.

As noted in my first reply, the audience is entitled to vote for what they enjoy and it's silly for us to force them to our "standards" of what is "acceptable" and whatnot. Even if TsunamiX and I disagreed with the video that won in 2005, we still accept the result. Otakon would prefer a more "fun" and audience participation contest which is why they go with an audience vote. If they wanted a more "serious" contest, they'd go with selected judges (i.e. AWA Pro/Masters). In submitting a video to Otakon's contest, we are submitting to their rules, which is fair.
Doomimus wrote:At any rate, I'm very pleased with the results, and even if I hadn't won in the Romance category (which I'm very grateful for), or even made it to the finalists, I would've felt the same way.
I think that's pretty much all that matters and the right attitude towards any video you make. At the same time, it's also nice to win once in awhile. Were you at Otakon? At first it's a bit daunting to pick up your awards in front of a large audience, but it still gives you a warm fuzzy :P.
TsunamiX wrote: Sorry, I did forget about 2007 (probably because that video had been a different style than your winning videos in those other two years).
I don't blame you since as you said, it was very different from anything else I've submitted (a more upbeat/slapstick romance video). At the same time, the fact I won kind of goes back to your point earlier :P. In any case, I was just commenting since more than one person has commented on me being "old school" or that I haven't been editing in FOREVER and that's not entirely true...it's only been 2 years >_>. I've said a million times, but hopefully I'll finish this one video that's been half done forever and submit to Otakon some day. ;)

In any case, this is the first Otakon I've missed since I started attending, but I still congratulate both the winners and finalists. Otakon has (almost) always been a well-run (I had to add almost since I forgot about a few coordinators in the past :P), highly competitive and respected AMV contest and all of you should be proud.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Doomimus » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:22 pm

dwchang wrote: In all fairness, I have not watched your video (or any video since like 2008) so it wasn't a snipe at you so no worries. I am just commenting on a common trend that I've been seeing since around 2005. I obviously have my own preferences, but I voice them with my one vote (as does everyone else) and I accept the results accordingly.
Right on, right on.

(It's on YouTube if you'd like to take a peek. :wink: )
dwchang wrote: As noted in my first reply, the audience is entitled to vote for what they enjoy and it's silly for us to force them to our "standards" of what is "acceptable" and whatnot. Even if TsunamiX and I disagreed with the video that won in 2005, we still accept the result. Otakon would prefer a more "fun" and audience participation contest which is why they go with an audience vote. If they wanted a more "serious" contest, they'd go with selected judges (i.e. AWA Pro/Masters). In submitting a video to Otakon's contest, we are submitting to their rules, which is fair.
I bet there can be plenty of overlap there.
dwchang wrote: I think that's pretty much all that matters and the right attitude towards any video you make. At the same time, it's also nice to win once in awhile. Were you at Otakon? At first it's a bit daunting to pick up your awards in front of a large audience, but it still gives you a warm fuzzy :P.
Heh. Nope. I would love to have been there, though. 'Cept I have these expensive habits like eating and sleeping indoors... and living 700 miles from the convention. Ah, well. Maybe next year.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:41 pm

Scintilla wrote:"Fight for Life" - 10th Man Down (Nightwish), various
Isn't this a 4 year old video? :nono:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by GreatLupin » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:46 pm

I think it got buried a few pages back but could anyone tell me what kind of reaction "The Job" got?

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by TheTsunami » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:08 pm

Doomimus wrote:Heh. Nope. I would love to have been there, though. 'Cept I have these expensive habits like eating and sleeping indoors... and living 700 miles from the convention. Ah, well. Maybe next year.
On an odd note, one of the last people to comment during Con Feedback Sunday afternoon was a first time Otakon-goer...from Australia. :shock:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by MycathatesyouAMV » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:09 pm

Would like to know what people thought of my vid. (The Diary of Jane one)
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Rider4Z » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:05 pm

Castor Troy wrote:
Scintilla wrote:"Fight for Life" - 10th Man Down (Nightwish), various
Isn't this a 4 year old video? :nono:
if it was against the rules it would have gotten DQed :P

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by DarkBasilisk » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:17 pm

MycathatesyouAMV wrote:Would like to know what people thought of my vid. (The Diary of Jane one)
I liked it. I can't remember which I ended up voting for but it was that and 'Ain't No Rest for the Wicked' I was choosing between. I like Tale of Memories AMV's :)

Also are you going to post it? That's one of the one's i'm waiting on.

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Scintilla » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:29 am

GreatLupin wrote:I think it got buried a few pages back but could anyone tell me what kind of reaction "The Job" got?
It was a fun video and it got a pretty good reaction; I was just confused as to why it was in Trailer/Parody...?
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by irriadin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:52 am

Scintilla wrote:
GreatLupin wrote:I think it got buried a few pages back but could anyone tell me what kind of reaction "The Job" got?
It was a fun video and it got a pretty good reaction; I was just confused as to why it was in Trailer/Parody...?
^^ This. Maybe I just didn't get the reference material, but it seemed to me that it belonged in a different category. Did Get Smart have an intro like that or something? It was pretty fun, though.
MycathatesyouAMV wrote:Would like to know what people thought of my vid. (The Diary of Jane one)
I liked your video, apart from a bit of scene recycling. It was solid, tho. You should post it!

If anyone is so inclined, tell me what you thought of my video! It actually was my first AMV, so I was totally stoked to see it make the finalists...


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